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[19:13:02] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [TOPIC] Discuss LoCo Approval Process & Steps to Increase Success.<br />
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[19:13:49] &lt;netritious&gt; back<br />
[19:13:51] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; back<br />
[19:13:56] &lt;wrst&gt; mornign netritious<br />
[19:14:01] &lt;wrst&gt; err afternoon or whatever it is<br />
[19:14:04] &lt;cyberanger&gt; hang on, someone is being rather persistant on the cell, let me turn it off<br />
[19:14:05] &lt;netritious&gt; evening wrst<br />
[19:14:13] &lt;wrst&gt; yeah that's it netritious<br />
[19:14:24] &lt;netritious&gt; :)<br />
[19:15:15] &lt;cyberanger&gt; lol, that wasn't my cell, that was mootbot pm'ing me<br />
[19:15:27] &lt;wrst&gt; netritious: my wife is driving all the way to knoxville with some friends monday to watch twilight junk on imax<br />
[19:15:41] &lt;wrst&gt; am i wrong to consider my wife nutso?<br />
[19:15:49] &lt;netritious&gt; lol wrst...will have the house to yourself then?<br />
[19:15:56] &lt;cyberanger&gt; the wife is allways right<br />
[19:16:10] &lt;wrst&gt; yes i'm going homer simpson on the couch to celebrate independence<br />
[19:16:11] &lt;cyberanger&gt; esp. when shes wrong<br />
[19:16:11] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; wrst I would say no but my wife is sitting next to me and would probably do the same so hush<br />
[19:16:18] &lt;netritious&gt; haha<br />
[19:16:21] &lt;wrst&gt; yes sir jfenn2199 ;)<br />
[19:16:31] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, back on track<br />
[19:16:38] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; ho ho ho<br />
[19:16:42] &lt;wrst&gt; jfenn2199: you are so sensitive to encourage such behaviour your wife is very very lucky to have you<br />
[19:16:50] &lt;wrst&gt; merry christams elijah-mbp!<br />
[19:16:59] &lt;netritious&gt; so, let's Discuss LoCo Approval Process & Steps to Increase Success.<br />
[19:17:01] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] get a ubuntu member (not loco member) head count<br />
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[19:17:04] &lt;wrst&gt; oh back on track sorry cyberanger<br />
[19:17:20] &lt;netritious&gt; or not lol<br />
[19:17:27] &lt;wrst&gt; ha ha :)<br />
[19:17:43] &lt;netritious&gt; raise your hand if you're hear<br />
[19:17:50] &lt;netritious&gt; o/<br />
[19:17:53] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; *hand up*<br />
[19:17:55] &lt;cyberanger&gt; who here is an ubuntu member (it relates to the topic, just give me a moment, I'm going somewhere with this)<br />
[19:18:18] &lt;cyberanger&gt; & who knows of any absentees inthe loco<br />
[19:18:36] &lt;cyberanger&gt; elijah-mbp: you are, great<br />
[19:18:43] &lt;netritious&gt; ericG, pace_t_zulu, binary_mutant, w4ett, exodus_ms<br />
[19:18:47] &lt;cyberanger&gt; netritious: is that a hand?<br />
[19:19:08] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; member status:  i'm not but should be working toward that status.<br />
[19:19:13] &lt;netritious&gt; my head and an arm...the hand is on the end but I'm to far away for you to see that<br />
[19:19:45] &lt;netritious&gt; I've signe3d the CoC, so does that mean I am a ubuntu member?<br />
[19:19:51] &lt;cyberanger&gt; netritious: is binarymutant still in the loco (launchpad list) & exodus_ms last I heard resigned the loco<br />
[19:20:03] &lt;wrst&gt; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership<br />
[19:20:11] &lt;cyberanger&gt; no, (great, more links)<br />
[19:20:16] &lt;cyberanger&gt; thanks wrst<br />
[19:20:25] &lt;wrst&gt; ha ha sorry but it answers the question<br />
[19:20:30] &lt;cyberanger&gt; saved me that trouble<br />
[19:20:37] &lt;wrst&gt; ohh  gotcha :D<br />
[19:20:43] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership<br />
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[19:20:44] &lt;netritious&gt; so what exactly is the point of signing the CoC?<br />
[19:21:10] &lt;cyberanger&gt; it's like signing any other contract, is symbolizes you agree<br />
[19:21:21] &lt;netritious&gt; and registering with the mailing list, the forums, the wiki, etc...all just for a non-official loco?<br />
[19:21:36] &lt;wrst&gt; i think it is to say netritious that we will be good little boys and girls<br />
[19:21:56] &lt;cyberanger&gt; & is a small step furthure into most communities, even new ones working to get official<br />
[19:22:09] &lt;netritious&gt; just thought I would ask<br />
[19:22:52] &lt;cyberanger&gt; but for this purpose, I mean a member, vetted by the community as outlined in the link above<br />
[19:23:16] &lt;mac9416&gt; back for a while this time.<br />
[19:23:19] &lt;cyberanger&gt; elijah-mbp: so you are aiming for that goal, not there yet<br />
[19:24:37] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, you know what, I'll speed ahead here & come back to this if needed<br />
[19:24:47] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; i am afraid that i tend to over-weight the kind of contributions that are desired - and not apply because i think that occasional package hacking and bug reporting, etc, are 'too small'.  :)<br />
[19:25:02] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; so, i should circle back and make contributions concrete, and get it done.<br />
[19:25:05] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; go on :)<br />
[19:25:33] &lt;cyberanger&gt; how many here are aware of the requirements to be an approved loco?<br />
[19:25:44] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; lightly<br />
[19:25:52] * wrst is after looking at the link<br />
[19:26:01] &lt;wrst&gt; does that help the team as far as approval cyberanger?<br />
[19:26:23] &lt;mac9416&gt; I have some idea of what the requirements are to be an approve3d loco.<br />
[19:26:29] &lt;mac9416&gt; *approved<br />
[19:26:47] &lt;wrst&gt; sorry i'm behind i was still on ubuntu membership<br />
[19:27:21] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; can you give us a brief list cyberranger?<br />
[19:27:40] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: having ubuntu members can, as a sign of leadership (if they are just members, they have show dedication to ubuntu, expected to be dedicated members & so same point)<br />
[19:28:14] &lt;wrst&gt; ok gotcha well the requirements to be an ubuntu member don't look to be impossible for anyone here<br />
[19:28:25] &lt;cyberanger&gt; elijah-mbp: on the way ( I started before the wiki finished loading, curse this cell phone connection, 20k)<br />
[19:31:29] &lt;cyberanger&gt; well, I wish I had the full list in print<br />
[19:31:51] &lt;cyberanger&gt; seems the closest thing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto<br />
[19:32:15] &lt;cyberanger&gt; sustained commimitment to support & advocacy<br />
[19:32:24] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; essentially from my understanding first and foremost the group must have members, a wiki, an IRC channels, regular meetings, and a defined roadmap, with exactly who will be doing what on the road map<br />
[19:33:39] &lt;mac9416&gt; Yeah, I remember the roadmap thing too.<br />
[19:33:50] &lt;cyberanger&gt; jfenn2199: that sums up how to work towards it & the road map will be key in a moment (I'm working up to that & has to do with why I asked you here tonight)<br />
[19:34:19] &lt;cyberanger&gt; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved<br />
[19:34:32] &lt;cyberanger&gt; might be what I was looking for<br />
[19:35:15] &lt;cyberanger&gt; we have members (all warm bodies may raise their hand to that as proof)<br />
[19:35:37] * jfenn2199 raises hand<br />
[19:35:39] &lt;wrst&gt; o/<br />
[19:35:49] &lt;mac9416&gt; \o<br />
[19:35:51] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; heh<br />
[19:35:56] &lt;cyberanger&gt; we have a wiki (which I used to give a (exessively brief) adgenda<br />
[19:36:18] &lt;wrst&gt; \o\<br />
[19:36:19] &lt;wrst&gt; |o|<br />
[19:36:19] &lt;wrst&gt; /o/<br />
[19:36:19] &lt;cyberanger&gt; we have an IRC channel right ChanServ ? ;-)<br />
[19:36:23] &lt;wrst&gt; sorry :\<br />
[19:36:28] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; approval list does not seem overly onerous&. we should focus on having some actual activities, even if that means an occasional breakfast (hey, that's always been one of my favorite user group venues& :) )<br />
[19:36:47] &lt;wrst&gt; elijah-mbp: only if there is gravy AND biscuits<br />
[19:37:25] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; YUM!<br />
[19:37:33] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; we used to have user group meetings in cookeville at shoneys :)<br />
[19:37:34] &lt;cyberanger&gt; regular meetings is vauge, as elijah-mbp points out, meetings aren't too physical (due to the distance of the state & mobility of some members I can understand)<br />
[19:38:46] &lt;cyberanger&gt; we have had roadmaps of sorts, not interstate grade however, it happens we carry out a high rate of what we aim to do<br />
[19:39:13] &lt;cyberanger&gt; also sometimes they arn't monthly even<br />
[19:41:09] &lt;cyberanger&gt; this isn't a critical assessment, it's a list of things that the approving council may see, our documentation can say more on what we do (I still haven't posted photos of lucids release in knoxville, as an example)<br />
[19:41:50] &lt;cyberanger&gt; but as I start to turn this towards a rant (I swear, not my goal) I better get back on point<br />
[19:42:27] &lt;cyberanger&gt; jfenn2199: what's goign on in memphis this month? (sorry, you deserve the spotlight for this goal)<br />
[19:42:59] &lt;mac9416&gt; Crime.<br />
[19:43:16] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; Well as most of you here tonight know, I have a meeting with the CIO of the City of Memphis on July 29th to discuss the possible benefits of FOSS<br />
[19:43:34] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; neat!<br />
[19:43:42] &lt;mac9416&gt; I didn't know that. Cool!<br />
[19:43:45] &lt;cyberanger&gt; jfenn2199: how'd that idea get started?<br />
[19:44:10] &lt;cyberanger&gt; this plays into my overall point, bear with me<br />
[19:44:12] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; (and neat that memphis *has* a cio& that's a cool thing.)<br />
[19:44:20] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; Well it started with cyberanger and myself joking about flooding the White House with install disk<br />
[19:44:39] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; it quickly moved to the concept that "all politics is local"<br />
[19:45:08] &lt;cyberanger&gt; & was this during a meeting, or just free time on irc<br />
[19:46:37] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; so when (as Memphians know) we had our annual budget review, and the council announced that it may have to cut funding for libraries and parks (free time cyberanger) I sent an email to one of my councilmen explaining the potential benefits of Open Source on the budget using a progressive transition (beginning with OO.o and moving to Ubuntu Private Cloud and VMs)<br />
[19:47:45] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, now (I don't want to cut you short here jfenn2199 this is great news indeed)<br />
[19:48:57] &lt;cyberanger&gt; for comparison, how many have had a computer issue in here or wound up fixing one (or trying to at least)<br />
[19:49:48] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; I know I have many times on both ends<br />
[19:49:52] &lt;cyberanger&gt; jfenn2199: if you have more, please, continue<br />
[19:50:04] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; yes, many times, try to answer questions if i'm around and see them.<br />
[19:50:12] &lt;mac9416&gt; So, how many of us have given or received support here?<br />
[19:50:21] &lt;cyberanger&gt; it's a frequent occurance, good<br />
[19:50:29] &lt;linuxman410&gt; i have done both here<br />
[19:50:32] &lt;mac9416&gt; Yeah, I've done a little of both.<br />
[19:50:36] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; i'm guessing most :)<br />
[19:50:44] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; well right now that covers where I am aside from preparing the presentation<br />
[19:50:50] &lt;wrst&gt; o?<br />
[19:50:54] &lt;wrst&gt; o/<br />
[19:52:46] &lt;cyberanger&gt; mac9416 has helped with artwork, & someone helped binarymutant with ubottu (long time since that bot it seems, sorry I forget who helped on that project)<br />
[19:53:29] * jfenn2199 misses ubottn(sp)<br />
[19:53:33] &lt;cyberanger&gt; who's handed out a cd randomly to someone, coworker, friend, dude at a convention<br />
[19:53:47] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; yup yup yup<br />
[19:53:53] &lt;mac9416&gt; I've given away a couple of CDs since 10.04.<br />
[19:54:12] &lt;linuxman410&gt; i have handed out cds<br />
[19:54:12] &lt;netritious&gt; I was giving away ubuntu cd's before I was using ubuntu<br />
[19:54:21] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; I give them out whenever I have an extra one on me<br />
[19:54:48] &lt;cyberanger&gt; netritious: I don't know if I should applaud that or condemm that<br />
[19:55:06] &lt;mac9416&gt; Hey, he could _tell_ it was good.<br />
[19:55:15] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; i did it too netritious - just because i thought certain folks couldn't deal with a debian installer disc :)<br />
[19:55:48] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I've gone to three conventions on behalf of the loco, other members have covered ones too<br />
[19:55:56] * wrst is about to install ubuntu on his crazy aunt's computer<br />
[19:56:16] &lt;cyberanger&gt; elijah-mbp: ah that sounds better, I feared it was use windows & hand out linux<br />
[19:57:04] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok,I think I've hit the time for my point now<br />
[19:57:48] &lt;linuxman410&gt; i ask everyone whos computer i have to remove virus if they would like to try ubuntu and 2 of them have said yeah<br />
[19:58:07] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; linuxman410: good strategy there :-)<br />
[19:58:34] * jfenn2199 gave an install disk to the comcast guy<br />
[19:58:41] &lt;netritious&gt; cyberanger: wasn't asking for applause, just stating the facts :)<br />
[19:59:11] * mac9416 applauds netritious anyway.<br />
[19:59:27] &lt;netritious&gt; :P lol<br />
[19:59:33] &lt;cyberanger&gt; how many here feel we are a fully active loco (random acts of each member will count for this poll) this is to dertimine if we should approach the council<br />
[19:59:58] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [vote] are we an active loco in our own minds<br />
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[20:00:07] &lt;netritious&gt; +1<br />
[20:00:14] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; +1<br />
[20:00:18] &lt;wrst&gt; +1<br />
[20:00:22] &lt;mac9416&gt; Yep, purdy active.<br />
[20:00:23] &lt;mac9416&gt; +1<br />
[20:00:29] &lt;linuxman410&gt; +1<br />
[20:00:29] &lt;wrst&gt; wow i've never got to vote on what is in my mind<br />
[20:00:42] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; +1<br />
[20:01:02] &lt;cyberanger&gt; 7 people here tonight?<br />
[20:01:22] &lt;wrst&gt; linuxman410<br />
[20:01:22] &lt;cyberanger&gt; +1<br />
[20:01:30] &lt;wrst&gt; oh wait you did vote<br />
[20:01:34] * wrst is a dunce<br />
[20:02:09] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I did, I was aiming to go last<br />
[20:02:16] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [endvote]<br />
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[20:02:46] &lt;mac9416&gt; brb, maybe 10 minutes<br />
[20:02:57] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] increase past actions (as metioned in the meeting above)<br />
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[20:03:14] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; in addition to what we've already mentioned we also have the experience and tutorials sections on the website<br />
[20:03:29] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] increase past actions (as metioned in the meeting above) & add more (like an ubuntu hour, for example)<br />
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[20:04:04] &lt;cyberanger&gt; jfenn2199: yes, great point, one I overlooked<br />
[20:04:38] &lt;netritious&gt; yeah I would like to see more participation on the web site<br />
[20:04:45] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] increase documentation of events in the loco<br />
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[20:05:25] &lt;netritious&gt; more specifically we could add meeting photos and such to the web site :)<br />
[20:05:26] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; that's right what I was going to say we need to that especially before we go to the LoCo council<br />
[20:05:32] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; collect up tweets and blog posts from folks who participate in those media?  :)<br />
[20:06:27] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; good points netritious and elijah-mbp<br />
[20:07:10] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] hold a cd distribution "contest" event each month, who ever tallies up the most cds & installs in the community will win something (on a budget this month, unless someone has a better idea I can afford bragging rights & a golf clap)<br />
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[20:07:40] &lt;cyberanger&gt; elijah-mbp: & netritious: great ideas indeed<br />
[20:07:40] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; that is an entertaining idea<br />
[20:08:12] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; i like netritious's idea of gettign more meeting photos up<br />
[20:08:39] &lt;netritious&gt; yeah..nothing like actual photos of the people involved with the loco<br />
[20:08:53] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; yes, that makes the case for the loco being active, imho :)<br />
[20:08:59] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; (and other things of that ilk...)<br />
[20:09:20] &lt;cyberanger&gt; we need to have more events, if we can hold a repair hour in the channel a month, it'd count as an event<br />
[20:09:26] &lt;linuxman410&gt; i can run a shipit myself if anyone needs ubuntu cds anywhere in us<br />
[20:09:48] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; yeah Memphis definitely could use another another in-person meeting<br />
[20:09:52] &lt;cyberanger&gt; linuxman410: beware the cost<br />
[20:10:09] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; repair hour is an excellent idea<br />
[20:10:28] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; can we get that scheduled ASAP?  i'll commit to showing up if someone else will as well :)<br />
[20:10:37] &lt;linuxman410&gt; a 100 cd pack is 14.99 and it cost 2.00 to ship<br />
[20:10:59] &lt;cyberanger&gt; elijah-mbp: yes, it'll wind up on the calendar & I can make the 1st one<br />
[20:11:47] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; awesome. linuxman410 please say something if you start to find that sort of activity financially stressful - so that we can kick in some coin on it.<br />
[20:12:12] &lt;cyberanger&gt; oh yeah, a calendar for meetings & events will be a contrib. I will be adding<br />
[20:12:37] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; (it doesn't sound like you're planning to go order a batch of 300 or anything, but if you get a big demand& please say something.)<br />
[20:12:56] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; +1 on calendar, awesome cyberanger :)<br />
[20:13:00] &lt;netritious&gt; if anyone can get to me photos of an event with some details I will post on the web site<br />
[20:13:28] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; I'll through my email I know some where posted of the eastTN Lucid release<br />
[20:13:31] &lt;cyberanger&gt; this is a leadership moment, if it helps, you can do it, don't ask, your a member permission granted, if you need help, ask<br />
[20:13:47] &lt;cyberanger&gt; glad everyone is stepping up tonight<br />
[20:14:30] &lt;cyberanger&gt; netritious: I'll send you photos from the events I've been an ambassitor(sp) at<br />
[20:14:38] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; i am happy to be collector of blog and twitter usernames - if folks find that a valuable resource.  better might be for everyone to make sure that they have a launchpad page with good contact info on it.  :)<br />
[20:14:52] &lt;cyberanger&gt; netritious: check the mailing list for lucid release parties in knoxville<br />
[20:15:02] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; ok thank god for filtering I have those now forwarding them to you now netritious<br />
[20:15:07] &lt;netritious&gt; sounds good cyberanger<br />
[20:16:20] &lt;cyberanger&gt; repair event is an idea the NY state loco gave, wheI was at fosscon, people from PA & NY loco's (both approved) got a list of questions & answers<br />
[20:16:56] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] thank the NY & PA state LoCo's for their input in this topic<br />
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[20:17:45] &lt;cyberanger&gt; well, ifit's ok, how about the next item (hopefully shorter)<br />
[20:18:04] &lt;cyberanger&gt; & if I recall, final item<br />
[20:18:39] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; :)<br />
[20:19:20] &lt;cyberanger&gt; speak now or hold your breath till the end....<br />
[20:19:25] &lt;wrst&gt; cyberanger: come on we could break a record tonight<br />
[20:19:56] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; I think we're good<br />
[20:20:26] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: well, it's productive meeting, I'll set a record if that holds, but only with willingness to go there<br />
[20:20:28] &lt;netritious&gt; I have a question for everyone at the end of the meeting<br />
[20:20:51] &lt;cyberanger&gt; netritious: want to say it now?<br />
[20:20:56] &lt;wrst&gt; the repair hour sounds interesting<br />
[20:21:07] &lt;cyberanger&gt; in case people leave due to time?<br />
[20:21:33] &lt;netritious&gt; it's not a meeting item<br />
[20:21:47] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [topic] Discuss Leadership Elections, since Re-election is in August.<br />
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[20:22:21] &lt;cyberanger&gt; if it's relevant to the loco, you could add it to the meeting, the adgenda is open for input from anyone in the loco<br />
[20:22:38] &lt;mac9416&gt; bacl. Took longer than I expected.<br />
[20:22:42] &lt;mac9416&gt; *back<br />
[20:23:06] &lt;cyberanger&gt; on topic however, we have an election for new terms in august<br />
[20:23:22] &lt;netritious&gt; I think we should change the term lengths<br />
[20:23:48] &lt;cyberanger&gt; last year we held a special meeting over it, with a nominated list vetted in advance<br />
[20:23:53] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; what are they now, and what do people want to change them to be?<br />
[20:23:58] &lt;cyberanger&gt; netritious: why<br />
[20:24:05] &lt;netritious&gt; to account for situations where the Trustee and/or POCs vanish<br />
[20:24:06] &lt;cyberanger&gt; one year is current<br />
[20:24:22] &lt;netritious&gt; yes, but for more than six months the trustee of this loco has been inavailable<br />
[20:24:29] &lt;netritious&gt; *unavailable<br />
[20:24:35] &lt;netritious&gt; just saying it outloud<br />
[20:24:45] &lt;cyberanger&gt; netritious: that should be a resignation, not a term limit issue & that is a point I have stated too<br />
[20:25:11] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; suggestion: keep it a year, if the trustee/poc disappears we keep the option to hold an election at the six month point and replace them.<br />
[20:25:42] &lt;cyberanger&gt; but with the election next month, better let it wait till then (as a vote goes, more notice for that issue, since it's a big one)<br />
[20:25:52] &lt;mac9416&gt; elijah-mbp, I think we have already used the option to vote in temporary replacements.<br />
[20:25:57] &lt;wrst&gt; it seems very reasonable to have tools in place to replace people who go MIA bet it shorter terms etc<br />
[20:26:06] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; well I have an issue with a 6 month time frame that is a bit too long to keep a constant flow as new members come in at greater intervals than that<br />
[20:26:18] &lt;netritious&gt; I agree with wrst<br />
[20:26:45] &lt;wrst&gt; if its not term limits which 6 months maybe short, i'm not really for sure probably need to have a procedure in place either way<br />
[20:26:48] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; y, agree, pulling the plug earlier seems better to me as well<br />
[20:27:10] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; 6 mo elected term seems short, because we risk having elections pointlessly soon :)<br />
[20:27:15] &lt;mac9416&gt; Want to put that on the agenda for next month, when we have time to debate it?<br />
[20:27:22] &lt;cyberanger&gt; what east tn has done effictivly is step down & re-elect (with a hiccup on binarymutant, we replaced him before he replied on why he needed (an intended) temporary replacement)<br />
[20:27:43] &lt;cyberanger&gt; baytes stepped down, an election has been held<br />
[20:27:50] &lt;netritious&gt; mac9416: that's fine...<br />
[20:28:05] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; +1<br />
[20:28:36] &lt;wrst&gt; probably a good idea mac9416 that will give everyone time to bounce ideas around<br />
[20:29:22] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; I agree with mac9416, and we can do like last year and have a special meeting later in the month for the actual election should there be time constraints on the first<br />
[20:30:34] &lt;cyberanger&gt; what I figure is trustee aside, I see a ton of leaders here that are active & don't try to get elected, that the POC's have an easier job for it (the trustee is a needed position, esp. if we head to the council soon for a status change)<br />
[20:30:39] &lt;wrst&gt; just a thought how about a "works session" of sorts to do some brain storming on that<br />
[20:30:42] &lt;linuxman410&gt; what happen to owner of team or whatever he is called w4ett<br />
[20:31:23] &lt;cyberanger&gt; w4ett's title is trustee, recent story is busy with work<br />
[20:31:23] &lt;wrst&gt; linuxman410: life, he's ok and i've noticed he's updated facebook and what not just a busy guy from what i know<br />
[20:31:44] &lt;linuxman410&gt; ok i did not know<br />
[20:32:20] &lt;cyberanger&gt; well, mac9416 your idea is getting a ton of +1's for a hot issue<br />
[20:32:35] &lt;cyberanger&gt; do you mind spelling it out as an [idea]<br />
[20:32:55] &lt;cyberanger&gt; so mootbot can log it better<br />
[20:33:25] &lt;mac9416&gt; [idea] Put off debate on term lengths until next month's meeting<br />
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[20:34:25] &lt;netritious&gt; anyone heard from pace_t_zulu or ericG?<br />
[20:34:36] &lt;cyberanger&gt; yes<br />
[20:34:44] &lt;mac9416&gt; netritious, pace_t_zulu is at the World Cup.<br />
[20:34:49] &lt;wrst&gt; netritious: pace_t_ is in ZA at the world cup<br />
[20:34:52] &lt;mac9416&gt; Not sure about ericG<br />
[20:34:54] &lt;netritious&gt; oh that's got to be awesome<br />
[20:34:58] &lt;wrst&gt; evidently they like soccer or something down there :)<br />
[20:35:08] &lt;cyberanger&gt; pace is at the world cup, he'll be back shortly, just a long trip like mine<br />
[20:35:10] &lt;wrst&gt; cyberanger: didn't you say ericG is in the process of moving?<br />
[20:35:28] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ericG last is moving last I heard<br />
[20:35:34] &lt;cyberanger&gt; to nashville<br />
[20:36:45] &lt;netritious&gt; so who is West TN POC?<br />
[20:36:56] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ericG<br />
[20:37:42] &lt;cyberanger&gt; one month (this month) he'll be out of area, no sweat waiting till election, as long as he stays in the loop<br />
[20:37:54] &lt;cyberanger&gt; he can manage via laptop<br />
[20:37:55] &lt;netritious&gt; I was just curious<br />
[20:38:09] &lt;cyberanger&gt; unless that's an issue to west tn<br />
[20:38:56] &lt;mac9416&gt; This tiny part of West TN says it's cool.  :-)<br />
[20:38:57] &lt;cyberanger&gt; (that's what I did in june, while I was out of town three weeks, two out of state)<br />
[20:39:12] &lt;netritious&gt; oh no it's fine, I was just asking<br />
[20:39:17] &lt;wrst&gt; mac9416: west tn its all flat :P<br />
[20:39:27] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, cool<br />
[20:39:42] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; yeah I'm fine with it<br />
[20:40:37] &lt;cyberanger&gt; well, I'm up for re-election (I was elected to finish binarymutants term) & would be willing to run again, or step down<br />
[20:41:06] &lt;netritious&gt; 'Say no to cyberanger rule!' lol<br />
[20:41:33] &lt;wrst&gt; ha ha<br />
[20:41:50] &lt;wrst&gt; cyberanger:  you never leave, even when you aren't here you are here<br />
[20:42:03] &lt;netritious&gt; darn that shellium account<br />
[20:42:08] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I know jfenn2199 is doing a great effort in memphis<br />
[20:42:11] &lt;cyberanger&gt; lol<br />
[20:42:37] &lt;cyberanger&gt; & nobody here has done anything that merits them not to be considered<br />
[20:43:40] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I assume that everyone would be willing to run again (except if ericG has indeed moved, he can't be re-elected to west tn)<br />
[20:44:12] &lt;cyberanger&gt; so ...uh, nominations for each position up for re-election next month?<br />
[20:44:25] &lt;cyberanger&gt; how about starting with trustee<br />
[20:44:30] &lt;netritious&gt; sure<br />
[20:44:48] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; sounds good<br />
[20:44:55] &lt;cyberanger&gt; sure you netritious nominate ____ for trustee?<br />
[20:45:13] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; sure<br />
[20:45:16] &lt;netritious&gt; wrst<br />
[20:45:23] &lt;wrst&gt; ha ha<br />
[20:45:30] &lt;netritious&gt; he's always here<br />
[20:45:34] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; :)<br />
[20:45:35] &lt;wrst&gt; that sounds like someone responsible is needed ;)<br />
[20:45:36] &lt;cyberanger&gt; format: [idea] nominate ___ for trustee<br />
[20:45:39] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; there is that<br />
[20:45:42] &lt;netritious&gt; I don't think I have ever been here for a day that wrst wasn't here<br />
[20:45:49] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; [idea] nominate wrst for trustee<br />
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[20:46:27] &lt;netritious&gt; you are responsible, sensible, helpful, etc...all the makings of a fine LoCo Trustee ;)<br />
[20:46:28] &lt;cyberanger&gt; one for wrst, anyone else for trustee<br />
[20:46:58] &lt;wrst&gt; hmm responsible and sensible sorry netritious i rarely hear those two words for me ;)<br />
[20:47:20] &lt;netritious&gt; see, that's what I'm talking about...modest too<br />
[20:47:20] &lt;wrst&gt; what does the trustee do?<br />
[20:47:41] &lt;wrst&gt; :p<br />
[20:47:58] &lt;cyberanger&gt; well, the'y become the team owner on , well all loco resources offically<br />
[20:48:36] &lt;mac9416&gt; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamContact<br />
[20:48:40] &lt;mac9416&gt; [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamContact<br />
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[20:48:47] &lt;cyberanger&gt; (within prior frameworks, which afaik only applies to the domain at the moment having a joint framework)<br />
[20:49:06] &lt;netritious&gt; "...is active in, and part of, their LoCo Team. He or she  is visible and accessible. "<br />
[20:49:14] &lt;mac9416&gt; has signed the CoC and is either an Ubuntu Member or intends to pursue Ubuntu Membership<br />
[20:49:18] &lt;mac9416&gt; wrst, is that you?<br />
[20:49:32] &lt;cyberanger&gt; contact to the community as a whole (loco team contact as linked to above, thatnks mac9416 )<br />
[20:49:54] &lt;wrst&gt; sorry on the phone attempting to see if that's me mac9416<br />
[20:50:05] &lt;mac9416&gt; Haha<br />
[20:50:26] &lt;cyberanger&gt; & is considered a president , poc's being a govenor (for this comparision)<br />
[20:50:31] &lt;mac9416&gt; Have you signed the CoC, wrst?<br />
[20:50:38] &lt;wrst&gt; yes mac9416 i have<br />
[20:50:49] &lt;cyberanger&gt; as we structured it about a year ago<br />
[20:50:51] &lt;mac9416&gt; Cool. Ubuntu member or plan to become one?<br />
[20:51:50] &lt;wrst&gt; well mac9416 looks like i could do that<br />
[20:52:12] &lt;wrst&gt; mhall119: could probably throw some assistance with that for any of us i would think<br />
[20:52:26] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: I'm gonna count you as nominated, anyone nominated does not have to run<br />
[20:52:51] &lt;cyberanger&gt; but the community feels they are qualified<br />
[20:53:04] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; Visible and Accessible (check), signed CoC, and could become an Ubuntu Member yep wrst that's you<br />
[20:53:05] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I need to try & get a 2nd name<br />
[20:53:16] &lt;cyberanger&gt; if I can<br />
[20:53:22] &lt;wrst&gt; well won't cramp my style i don't guess<br />
[20:53:29] &lt;wrst&gt; get a really really good 2nd name cyberanger<br />
[20:53:43] &lt;netritious&gt; like foorbarbazuim<br />
[20:53:58] &lt;cyberanger&gt; that could be w4ett for re-election, or a current leader, or any member, present or absent<br />
[20:53:58] * wrst wonders if that has something to do with soccer<br />
[20:54:25] &lt;netritious&gt; *foobarbazium<br />
[20:54:45] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; we're looking for a second name so wrst has someone to run against, which makes our election look better than him running unopposed/uncontested?  :)<br />
[20:54:52] &lt;cyberanger&gt; 2nd nomination<br />
[20:55:13] &lt;wrst&gt; or elijah-mbp looking for someone to easily defeat me because i'm the puppet candidate.. i like that better<br />
[20:55:22] &lt;mac9416&gt; I'm going to nominate cyberanger since he's been a regional PoC and has always been around.<br />
[20:55:22] &lt;netritious&gt; lol<br />
[20:55:31] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; *chuckles*<br />
[20:55:35] &lt;mac9416&gt; Assuming cyberanger would be willing to fill the position.<br />
[20:55:40] &lt;wrst&gt; there you go mac9416 that's what i'm talking about!<br />
[20:55:44] &lt;mac9416&gt; lol<br />
[20:55:48] &lt;cyberanger&gt; well, I assume w4ett is defacto nomination too<br />
[20:55:56] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; who are our current PoCs for the 3 regions now?<br />
[20:56:08] &lt;mac9416&gt; cyberanger, Not unless anyone nominates him, right?<br />
[20:56:15] &lt;cyberanger&gt; mac9416: that works, agian I can resign, not accept or take it as a job<br />
[20:56:15] &lt;netritious&gt; ericG, pace_t_zulu, cyberanger<br />
[20:56:20] &lt;wrst&gt; well cyberanger i wouldn't think he would be since his term is up and probably not likely to be nominated<br />
[20:56:21] &lt;mac9416&gt; elijah-mbp, pace_t_zulu, cyberanger, and ericG<br />
[20:56:24] &lt;netritious&gt; west, middle, east<br />
[20:56:31] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; (thanks!)<br />
[20:56:34] &lt;mac9416&gt; elijah-mbp, ubuntu-tennessee.org/leadership<br />
[20:56:36] &lt;netritious&gt; np ;)<br />
[20:56:41] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; !!! :)<br />
[20:57:25] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; i'm lovin that page's existence.<br />
[20:57:25] &lt;cyberanger&gt; mac9416: I assum ehe was nominated for one term, he is nominated be default till not elected, [3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~<br />
[20:57:36] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wow, that is bad input<br />
[20:57:39] &lt;mac9416&gt; lol<br />
[20:57:45] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; bewbs, looks like to me.<br />
[20:57:48] &lt;wrst&gt; that shellium for you?<br />
[20:57:57] &lt;cyberanger&gt; nope, my gear<br />
[20:58:04] &lt;cyberanger&gt; bad key & I hit it<br />
[20:58:50] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; ok so I'm clear the nominations for Trustee are wrst, and cyberanger?<br />
[20:58:58] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; mac9416:  you were going to nominate cyberanger?  did you officially do so?  :)<br />
[20:59:13] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, so nominated is wrst & cyberanger (with w4ett up for re-election, & I assume that means he can run as he was nominated & then elected)<br />
[20:59:23] &lt;mac9416&gt; Yep, cyberanger is officially nominated.<br />
[20:59:27] &lt;cyberanger&gt; if I heard right<br />
[20:59:36] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok confirm...<br />
[20:59:47] &lt;cyberanger&gt; nominated is wrst & cyberanger (with w4ett up for re-election, & I assume that means he can run as he was nominated & then elected)<br />
[21:00:07] &lt;netritious&gt; yep<br />
[21:00:19] &lt;cyberanger&gt; for MootBot & then on, that is accurate<br />
[21:00:31] &lt;cyberanger&gt; netritious: agrees, any 2nd<br />
[21:00:50] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; seconded<br />
[21:01:09] &lt;cyberanger&gt; (election, I want to press out as much issues now, thus the extra formalities)<br />
[21:01:26] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, west tn poc<br />
[21:01:40] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] nominated is wrst & cyberanger (with w4ett up for re-election, & I assume that means he can run as he was nominated & then elected)<br />
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[21:01:51] &lt;cyberanger&gt; followed by ...<br />
[21:01:51] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; [idea] nomination for netritious<br />
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[21:02:15] &lt;netritious&gt; who me?<br />
[21:02:18] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea} nominations for west tn<br />
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[21:02:27] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; why of course<br />
[21:02:40] &lt;wrst&gt; yeah netritious i think we shoul nominate you for supreme ruler of the universe or something like that<br />
[21:02:44] &lt;cyberanger&gt; jfenn2199: bad line, please add west tn, or west tn poc<br />
[21:02:55] &lt;cyberanger&gt; for the log<br />
[21:02:59] &lt;cyberanger&gt; please<br />
[21:03:04] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; [idea] nomination of netritious for westTN PoC<br />
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[21:03:20] &lt;netritious&gt; I'm honored :)<br />
[21:03:53] &lt;mac9416&gt; Does that need a second?<br />
[21:04:00] &lt;netritious&gt; yes, I think it would mac9416<br />
[21:04:01] &lt;cyberanger&gt; while having no issue with netritious I can't ignore the effort jfenn2199 is making & since it's ideal to have at least 2 names<br />
[21:04:15] &lt;mac9416&gt; I second the nomination of netritious for West TN PoC<br />
[21:04:16] &lt;netritious&gt; I concur<br />
[21:04:32] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; [idea] nomination of jfenn2199 for west TN PoC  :)<br />
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[21:04:39] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] nominate jfenn2199 for West TN PoC<br />
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[21:04:42] * wrst thinks its great how this stuff is handled in a friendly yet professional manner<br />
[21:04:55] &lt;netritious&gt; I second jfenn2199 nomination<br />
[21:05:03] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; that's cause everyone in here respects each other :)  it's a good thing.<br />
[21:05:13] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; and as netritious I'm honored<br />
[21:05:13] &lt;wrst&gt; agreed elijah-mbp very good thing<br />
[21:05:21] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wow, if this was the election...<br />
[21:05:36] &lt;mac9416&gt; We'd be confused as all get-out?<br />
[21:05:43] &lt;netritious&gt; lol<br />
[21:05:43] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I figure that the state can nominate, the election is regional<br />
[21:06:04] &lt;cyberanger&gt; is there a misunderstanding in there<br />
[21:06:24] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; sounds good to me cyberanger<br />
[21:06:41] &lt;netritious&gt; hm, idk, but if everyone is good with it I am, and if not then I'll nominate jfenn2199 :)<br />
[21:06:49] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; i think that way too - i live in middle but i can tell who in west is doing stuff :)<br />
[21:06:57] &lt;cyberanger&gt; oh, wait, netritious are you wanting to run, you were nominated & nominated jfenn2199<br />
[21:07:14] &lt;netritious&gt; no, I seconded jfenn2199 nomination<br />
[21:07:26] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; i dont see a problem with nominating your competition once nominated :)<br />
[21:07:41] &lt;wrst&gt; other than the confusion elijah-mbp :D<br />
[21:07:52] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; well, yes, it is complex :)<br />
[21:07:56] &lt;mac9416&gt; Sounds fine to me.<br />
[21:08:00] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I don't, but if there is no intrest to run<br />
[21:08:00] &lt;netritious&gt; yeah, I mean this is a club not the white house :D<br />
[21:08:12] &lt;netritious&gt; no, I'll run<br />
[21:08:24] &lt;wrst&gt; well netritious if only washington was ran like this<br />
[21:08:29] &lt;netritious&gt; hehe<br />
[21:08:31] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, wanted to be clear for the log<br />
[21:08:34] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; as will I<br />
[21:08:50] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, I gotta stop laughing & type<br />
[21:09:05] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; wrst could you imagine if Barack had voted for McCain, and McCain Barrack<br />
[21:09:15] &lt;cyberanger&gt; uh, so...<br />
[21:10:28] &lt;wrst&gt; jfenn2199: i just long for the day of having politicians who i think are smart enough to vote :D<br />
[21:10:37] &lt;cyberanger&gt; for MootBot "netritious & jfenn2199 nominated, with ericG for re-election" (added ericG due to unconfirmed status of move, stale info)<br />
[21:10:54] &lt;netritious&gt; He's in TX atm<br />
[21:10:59] &lt;netritious&gt; ericG I mean<br />
[21:11:27] &lt;cyberanger&gt; really, that's news, trip or move?<br />
[21:11:47] &lt;cyberanger&gt; or unknown<br />
[21:11:56] &lt;netritious&gt; trip I'm assuming<br />
[21:12:39] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, term guidelines being clear, no region if not in region for work or home<br />
[21:12:56] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I think above is good enough<br />
[21:13:41] &lt;cyberanger&gt; for MootBot "netritious & jfenn2199 nominated, with ericG for re-election" [3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~<br />
[21:14:08] * netritious jealous of MootBot getting all the bewbs<br />
[21:14:08] &lt;cyberanger&gt; again, bakey, sorry<br />
[21:14:30] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; I second it<br />
[21:14:31] &lt;cyberanger&gt; is that clear, accurate?<br />
[21:14:48] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; well what can we say netritious MootBot is a playa<br />
[21:14:53] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, jfenn2199 2nds i<br />
[21:14:55] &lt;cyberanger&gt; t<br />
[21:15:02] &lt;netritious&gt; hehe<br />
[21:15:36] * cyberanger thinks keyboard hates this, too much type, no break maybe<br />
[21:16:50] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] netritious & jfenn2199 nominated, with ericG for re-election<br />
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[21:17:47] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] nominate middle tennessee<br />
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[21:18:13] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] nominate wrst for Middle TN PoC<br />
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[21:18:38] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; hehe<br />
[21:18:43] &lt;cyberanger&gt; stay with me guys, almost there<br />
[21:18:44] &lt;wrst&gt; cyberanger: i'm probably going to respectfully decline that nomination due to my location i have a hard time getting into "true" middle tn<br />
[21:19:27] &lt;wrst&gt; but i know pace_t and ericG either one i think would be very good for that<br />
[21:19:44] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: I can see that, but it seems true center or a region never actually happens, convinent places happen<br />
[21:19:48] &lt;mac9416&gt; Assuming ericG is moving.<br />
[21:19:56] &lt;wrst&gt; ahh yeah that's right mac9416<br />
[21:19:57] &lt;cyberanger&gt; pace is counted<br />
[21:20:23] &lt;mhall119&gt; what am I assisting with?<br />
[21:20:26] &lt;wrst&gt; true cyberanger but nashville is the hub ofthe area and i know pace_t_zulu does a pretty good job ofgetting thingsgoing there<br />
[21:20:36] &lt;wrst&gt; mhall119: on becoming an ubuntu member<br />
[21:21:07] &lt;mhall119&gt; oh yeah, who's applying?<br />
[21:21:21] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: assuming tha's true, ericG is nominated (pace is covered by already being elected)<br />
[21:21:28] &lt;wrst&gt; ok cool cyberanger<br />
[21:21:34] &lt;cyberanger&gt; mhall119: anyone intrested<br />
[21:21:49] &lt;wrst&gt; elijah-mbp, i think is working on it and i was considering it also mhall119<br />
[21:21:59] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: I meant as a question for ericG<br />
[21:22:02] &lt;mhall119&gt; I can only speak to my own experience with it, but I'm happy to help<br />
[21:22:07] &lt;wrst&gt; cyberanger:  thinks it will help our loco and it looks likethatwould be correct<br />
[21:22:22] &lt;wrst&gt; thanks mhall119 :) we will probably ask questions sometime soon<br />
[21:22:30] &lt;mhall119&gt; any time I'm around<br />
[21:22:49] &lt;wrst&gt; +1 for floridians<br />
[21:23:51] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt;  i got as far as setting up my page for membership (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ElijahWright) but did a crap job of finishing the task.  ;)<br />
[21:24:18] &lt;cyberanger&gt; mhall119: it came up due to your attempt to become an approved loco & NY suggested that having ubuntu members might help, as a sign of leadership & effort beyond the loco itself<br />
[21:24:44] &lt;mhall119&gt; my attempt to become an approved loco?<br />
[21:24:51] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: are you nominationg ericG<br />
[21:24:59] &lt;cyberanger&gt; mhall119: Tennessee's<br />
[21:25:05] &lt;mhall119&gt; oh,ok<br />
[21:25:20] &lt;mhall119&gt; does the TN loco have a mentor?<br />
[21:25:26] &lt;cyberanger&gt; sorry, error checking isn't going as well as normal tonight<br />
[21:25:29] &lt;cyberanger&gt; pleia2:<br />
[21:25:31] &lt;wrst&gt; well cyberanger guess we should make sure he is moving but would be a good one to have nominated, but pace_t has been doing a good job i think<br />
[21:25:35] &lt;mhall119&gt; ok<br />
[21:26:05] &lt;pleia2&gt; I haven't been very involved lately though since no one has asked ;)<br />
[21:26:06] &lt;cyberanger&gt; & you are unoffically one too ;-)<br />
[21:26:21] &lt;pleia2&gt; but I'm available whenever you guys have questions<br />
[21:26:24] &lt;mhall119&gt; I've been slacking then<br />
[21:26:51] &lt;cyberanger&gt; pleia2: well, that may change, we're trying to build steam again, you may hear questions  again<br />
[21:27:05] &lt;pleia2&gt; cyberanger: great :)<br />
[21:27:15] &lt;cyberanger&gt; & tonight sounds like a great start to increasing momumentum<br />
[21:28:18] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; very much so, cyberanger so whats going on with middleTN PoC nominations?<br />
[21:28:20] &lt;mac9416&gt; I'm about to have to derail and hit the sack though. cyberanger how much do we have left?<br />
[21:29:06] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; (side not 2hr meeting :-D)<br />
[21:29:14] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: I just need a 2nd name, yours, w4ett's ericG (assuming that move is still true) or Xpistos (misspelled)<br />
[21:29:47] &lt;cyberanger&gt; if you intend to decline, cool, I need a runner up to pace<br />
[21:29:55] &lt;wrst&gt; hey xpistos there you go<br />
[21:30:09] &lt;cyberanger&gt; mac9416:if you need to<br />
[21:30:10] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; playing the game of nominate the people who aren't here?  :)<br />
[21:30:16] &lt;cyberanger&gt; east tn is next & done<br />
[21:30:34] &lt;wrst&gt; i just don't really think i'm in a spot to really do it but if we ever get a cookevill/plateau area one i would be game<br />
[21:31:09] &lt;cyberanger&gt; FORMAT: [idea] nominate <name> for middle tn poc<br />
[21:31:22] &lt;cyberanger&gt; for MootBot<br />
[21:31:46] &lt;cyberanger&gt; (this is long, next month should be shorter due to this footwork)<br />
[21:32:20] &lt;mac9416&gt; OK, I guess I'll leave the Middle and East to y'all. Take care!<br />
[21:32:29] &lt;wrst&gt; [idea] nominate Xpistos for Middle tn poc<br />
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[21:33:06] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, east tn is funny, but I think binarymutant did actually step down<br />
[21:34:21] &lt;cyberanger&gt; so I'm up for re-election & election as trustee (I will not hold both jobs)<br />
[21:34:49] &lt;cyberanger&gt; & then linuxman410 aside, nobodys here now from east tn<br />
[21:35:29] &lt;cyberanger&gt; we need one guy nominated, preferrably 2, ideas?<br />
[21:36:07] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; so aside from you and linuxman410 who are our members from East?<br />
[21:37:06] &lt;cyberanger&gt; chiborshino (why the hard nicks to spell, sorry to those I fear I am mispelling)<br />
[21:37:48] &lt;wrst&gt; sorry guys gotta go<br />
[21:37:54] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; night wrst<br />
[21:37:58] &lt;wrst&gt; night jfenn2199<br />
[21:38:11] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: please bear with us just 15 minutes tops<br />
[21:38:17] &lt;cyberanger&gt; this is it<br />
[21:38:22] &lt;wrst&gt; ok i'll give you 15 cyberanger :P<br />
[21:38:44] &lt;cyberanger&gt; thanks, hopefully I won't need that much to wrap up<br />
[21:39:13] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ideas, exodus_ms was middle, quit membership<br />
[21:39:28] &lt;cyberanger&gt; & everyone else expired I think<br />
[21:39:38] &lt;cyberanger&gt; oh, no<br />
[21:39:47] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ragonarkangel is too<br />
[21:40:54] &lt;cyberanger&gt; [idea] nominate ragonarkangel for east tn poc<br />
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[21:41:05] &lt;cyberanger&gt; 2nd nomination?<br />
[21:41:15] &lt;cyberanger&gt; it'd be preferred<br />
[21:41:28] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; I 2nd the nomination of ragnarkangel<br />
[21:42:16] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I mean a runner up (glad for agreement however)<br />
[21:42:31] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: you see this channel a lot<br />
[21:42:38] &lt;cyberanger&gt; who stands out<br />
[21:43:13] &lt;wrst&gt; well cyberanger you should be nominated, but i think you will be the trustee but still<br />
[21:43:31] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; well from the other regions cyberanger is already in the running<br />
[21:43:38] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I'm re-election nominated<br />
[21:43:52] &lt;wrst&gt; ok well i would suggest linuxman410<br />
[21:44:00] &lt;cyberanger&gt; no other region trustee & I will not hold both jobs<br />
[21:44:09] &lt;wrst&gt; east tn<br />
[21:44:14] &lt;cyberanger&gt; I will give my runner up one<br />
[21:44:24] &lt;wrst&gt; yeah gotcha, linuxman410<br />
[21:44:29] &lt;cyberanger&gt; wrst: idea brackets<br />
[21:44:45] &lt;wrst&gt; [idea] nominate linuxman410 for east tn poc<br />
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[21:44:50] &lt;wrst&gt; all the formality :P<br />
[21:45:27] &lt;cyberanger&gt; perfect, decreases next meetings headache (oh & term changes on that agenda, yikes)<br />
[21:45:43] &lt;cyberanger&gt; ok, written adgenda done<br />
[21:45:51] &lt;cyberanger&gt; any additions<br />
[21:45:58] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; :)<br />
[21:46:01] * cyberanger crosses finges<br />
[21:46:14] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; none that I can think of<br />
[21:46:14] &lt;wrst&gt; can we legislate all of us getting big fat checks from somwhere?<br />
[21:46:20] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; lol<br />
[21:46:21] &lt;jfenn2199&gt; +1<br />
[21:46:33] &lt;wrst&gt; if not i have nothing<br />
[21:46:35] &lt;cyberanger&gt; going going &...<br />
[21:46:43] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; i think we're done :)<br />
[21:46:46] &lt;elijah-mbp&gt; great meeting!<br />
[21:46:56] &lt;cyberanger&gt; netritious: has something, outside of the actual meeting<br />
[21:47:02] &lt;cyberanger&gt; #endmeeting<br />
Meeting ended.<br />