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[14:05:31] &lt;ebel&gt; Welcome to the April 2010 Ubuntu Ireland IRC Meeting<br />
[14:05:39] &lt;ebel&gt; Please say PRESENT if you're here<br />
[14:05:44] &lt;slashtom&gt; PRESENT<br />
[14:05:45] &lt;ebel&gt; e.g.<br />
[14:05:47] &lt;ebel&gt; PRESENT<br />
[14:05:49] &lt;airurando&gt; PRESENT<br />
[14:05:52] &lt;ignus&gt; PRESENT :D<br />
[14:06:16] &lt;ebel&gt; The wiki page for this meeting is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2010-04-21<br />
[14:06:21] &lt;ebel&gt; That has the agenda.<br />
[14:07:03] &lt;tdr112&gt; PRESENT<br />
[14:08:12] &lt;ebel&gt; [topic] Ubuntu Ireland Website<br />
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[14:08:17] &lt;ebel&gt; I added it to the agenda<br />
[14:08:39] &lt;ebel&gt; As you know, the website is here http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/<br />
[14:08:55] &lt;ebel&gt; We have an offer of hosting from Blackknight.<br />
[14:09:11] &lt;ebel&gt; and kobrien (who doesn't seem here) offered to be the webmaster<br />
[14:09:39] &lt;slashtom&gt; may i make a suggestion, that we should have just one website?<br />
[14:09:43] &lt;kobrien&gt; woops<br />
[14:09:44] &lt;kobrien&gt; here<br />
[14:09:49] &lt;kobrien&gt; present<br />
[14:10:07] &lt;tdr112&gt; slashtom: you mean get rid of the wiki?<br />
[14:10:07] &lt;ebel&gt; the reason for getting a new website is that the one on ubuntu-ie.org is an old drupal install, some things don't work on it, and people want a better website<br />
[14:10:21] &lt;tdr112&gt; ical feeds dont work on it<br />
[14:10:33] &lt;slashtom&gt; yes tdr112<br />
[14:11:01] &lt;cduffin&gt; Emmmm... ubuntu-ie's feed works... are you talking about pulling other feeds?<br />
[14:11:02] &lt;tdr112&gt; i did say it before its a bit all over the place<br />
[14:11:29] &lt;slashtom&gt; aye, i have been posting events to at least 2 (if not more) places<br />
[14:11:33] &lt;ebel&gt; cduffin: I tried adding the events to google calendar, and it didn't work<br />
[14:11:40] &lt;slashtom&gt; one website should be enough for one group<br />
[14:11:53] &lt;tdr112&gt; cduffin: there is a bug in it that it does not pull into google calendar<br />
[14:11:55] &lt;tdr112&gt; ]<br />
[14:11:56] &lt;cduffin&gt; ebel: google calendar seems funny about iCal feeds<br />
[14:12:00] &lt;ebel&gt; slashtom: how should we plan irc meetings on the website?<br />
[14:12:11] &lt;cduffin&gt; It won't pull the opensourceireland.org one either<br />
[14:12:23] &lt;cduffin&gt; but osi pulls ubuntu-ies fine<br />
[14:12:30] &lt;tdr112&gt; the new drupal works with the google one<br />
[14:12:37] &lt;kobrien&gt; PRESENT<br />
[14:12:41] &lt;kobrien&gt; if it needs to be caps<br />
[14:13:01] &lt;ebel&gt; kobrien: Nah, it doesn't have to be capital PRESENT. Just so long as you talk, you're noticed on the minutes<br />
[14:13:13] &lt;kobrien&gt; ebel: ah, ok<br />
[14:13:24] &lt;airurando&gt; I think the current website is limited in other ways.<br />
[14:13:25] &lt;ebel&gt; merging all sites into one is a decent idea, it's a bit messy now<br />
[14:13:47] &lt;czajkowski&gt; aloha<br />
[14:13:51] &lt;tdr112&gt; cduffin: it does work<br />
[14:13:56] &lt;ebel&gt; I wonder if there's any benefit to using the same site as all the other ubuntu stiuff (i.e. using the wiki)<br />
[14:13:59] &lt;cduffin&gt; ebel: excuse my ignorance, what sites are you referring to?<br />
[14:14:09] &lt;airurando&gt; we cannot have our own instance of etherpad or stuff like that<br />
[14:14:14] &lt;tdr112&gt; but we did need the wiki for the team reports to be pulled into the main report page<br />
[14:14:24] &lt;ebel&gt; cduffin: 'website' http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/ 'wiki': https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam<br />
[14:14:32] &lt;kobrien&gt; I think opensourceireland is working off the idea that every group will still have their own website<br />
[14:14:37] &lt;cduffin&gt; ebel: cheers<br />
[14:15:01] &lt;ebel&gt; cduffin: it means if there is a new event, someone has go and add details of it to several different places.<br />
[14:15:04] &lt;cduffin&gt; kobrien: indeed, although if others feel we should expand on that, I'm open to ideas<br />
[14:15:12] &lt;kobrien&gt; right<br />
[14:15:32] &lt;ebel&gt; We also use the wiki for IRC Meetings. I dunno what we'd do for that on the website.<br />
[14:15:44] &lt;cduffin&gt; ebel: hence the iCal aggregator on opensourceireland.org<br />
[14:15:48] &lt;ebel&gt; tdr112: good point about the team reports<br />
[14:16:56] &lt;slashtom&gt; what if the main site redirects to the wiki?<br />
[14:17:58] &lt;tdr112&gt; can we get by with just a wiki<br />
[14:18:13] &lt;ebel&gt; one option would be to strip down the wiki, make a pile of pages just say "Check the website"<br />
[14:18:36] &lt;tdr112&gt; better linking back and forward would slove a lot of it<br />
[14:18:41] &lt;cduffin&gt; you could look at some way of pulling the wiki content into a drupal site<br />
[14:19:08] &lt;slashtom&gt; tdr112: do you think the wiki is enough?<br />
[14:19:25] &lt;ebel&gt; aaaaaaanyway, all I wanted to say was that we should be getting our own hosting, and kobrien has offered to be the webmaster.<br />
[14:19:38] &lt;kobrien&gt; indeed<br />
[14:19:39] &lt;ebel&gt; I would assume kobrien is OK with other people helping if they want, right?<br />
[14:19:47] &lt;airurando&gt; can we not move the entire site from its current location to blacknight<br />
[14:19:48] &lt;czajkowski&gt; this s the onlt team I know of that has an issue with wiki and website<br />
[14:19:55] &lt;kobrien&gt; ebel: of course<br />
[14:20:03] &lt;ebel&gt; airurando: that's pretty much what we're going to do.<br />
[14:20:16] &lt;czajkowski&gt; sorry I'm late I fell asleep<br />
[14:20:20] &lt;cduffin&gt; Is blacknight offering free hosting?<br />
[14:20:28] &lt;ebel&gt; Remember it's everyone's site. Everyone can have input.<br />
[14:20:28] &lt;czajkowski&gt; cduffin: yes<br />
[14:21:07] &lt;ebel&gt; But one should still just get down and do it. "He who does, wins the argument" :P<br />
[14:21:25] &lt;ebel&gt; czajkowski: haven't heard anything more from blackknight anyway...<br />
[14:21:32] &lt;ebel&gt; s/anyway/in a bit/<br />
[14:21:44] &lt;czajkowski&gt; well I'll poke him tomoroww<br />
[14:22:26] &lt;ebel&gt; the other question that's come up is "should we get rid of the wiki?"......<br />
[14:22:35] &lt;czajkowski&gt; N O<br />
[14:22:36] &lt;tdr112&gt; we need the wiki<br />
[14:22:40] &lt;czajkowski&gt; lordie<br />
[14:22:59] &lt;czajkowski&gt; its the one of the things the cunfcil check s for<br />
[14:23:05] &lt;czajkowski&gt; it has all of the details of the team<br />
[14:23:10] &lt;kobrien&gt; keep the wiki so<br />
[14:23:12] &lt;slashtom&gt; ok, then can we avoid duplication of things on the wiki and main website?<br />
[14:23:12] &lt;czajkowski&gt; searched via the main wiki.u.c<br />
[14:23:37] &lt;ebel&gt; czajkowski: that's what I figured.<br />
[14:24:02] &lt;czajkowski&gt; dear gods I've teams fighting to get hosting on the .org and ye dont want it<br />
[14:24:07] &lt;czajkowski&gt; tis rather odd<br />
[14:24:46] &lt;airurando&gt; czajkowski: I agree.  I want it.<br />
[14:24:49] &lt;ebel&gt; [agreed] the wiki stays<br />
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[14:25:09] &lt;ebel&gt; czajkowski: oh yes, we are just thinking out load for options to problems<br />
[14:25:36] &lt;czajkowski&gt; you coukld make the site much more fun like adding a gallery<br />
[14:25:47] &lt;czajkowski&gt; showin off stuff from past events<br />
[14:25:51] &lt;czajkowski&gt; making it more than the wiki<br />
[14:26:06] * slashtom suggests czajkowski adds a gallery ;)<br />
[14:26:06] &lt;czajkowski&gt; wiki should be used for brain storing and working on items for the team<br />
[14:26:35] &lt;czajkowski&gt; slashtom: I think we both know I'm not dev but I'l happily find plugins<br />
[14:27:49] &lt;ebel&gt; aaaaanyway<br />
[14:27:52] &lt;ebel&gt; so we need the wiki<br />
[14:27:55] &lt;ebel&gt; and we are getting a website<br />
[14:28:00] &lt;kobrien&gt; yup<br />
[14:28:02] &lt;ebel&gt; next<br />
[14:28:04] &lt;ebel&gt; [topic]<br />
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[14:28:21] &lt;ebel&gt; [topic]  Ubuntu Leadership Code of Conduct<br />
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[14:28:32] &lt;slashtom&gt; we have a leader?<br />
[14:28:41] &lt;czajkowski&gt; [link] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392976<br />
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[14:28:41] &lt;ebel&gt; yes, so as you there's the ubuntu code of conduct<br />
[14:28:42] &lt;ebel&gt; !coc<br />
[14:28:43] &lt;ubot3&gt; Malone bug 392976 in ubuntu-community "Leadership CoC not given to LoCo Leads" [Medium,Confirmed]<br />
[14:28:44] &lt;ubot3&gt; The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ .  For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct .<br />
[14:28:45] &lt;tdr112&gt; we have a poc<br />
[14:29:11] * czajkowski puts on her loco council hat for this topics<br />
[14:29:12] &lt;ebel&gt; I recently became away of the leadershop CoC http://www.ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct<br />
[14:29:27] &lt;czajkowski&gt; I tbought this up last night at the loco council meeting it's been decieded 2 tings<br />
[14:29:38] &lt;ebel&gt; I and the PoC, the Point of Contact for the ubuntu-ie team<br />
[14:29:44] &lt;czajkowski&gt; 1- council define leader better as this translates differently<br />
[14:29:55] &lt;czajkowski&gt; 2- work out how we can intergrate signing of the LCoc<br />
[14:30:22] &lt;czajkowski&gt; [link]https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+spec/ubuntu-leadership-code-of-conduct-should-be-signed-by-loco-team-leaders<br />
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[14:30:24] &lt;ebel&gt; Both myself, and Mean-Machine, the previous PoC, always had the idea that we were not "leaders", that we had no authority more than any other member<br />
[14:30:37] &lt;czajkowski&gt; everyone can sign up to add comments on the bug and follow the blueprint<br />
[14:30:41] &lt;czajkowski&gt; we ar working on a solution<br />
[14:30:51] &lt;tdr112&gt; why sign it ?<br />
[14:31:27] &lt;czajkowski&gt; tdr112: we have a number of cases were folks in charge of areas such as the team, website, mailing list do stuff that isn't very friendly<br />
[14:31:42] &lt;czajkowski&gt; and it's just an extra step to sign<br />
[14:31:46] &lt;ebel&gt; So ubuntu-ie doesn't really have a leader (IMO)<br />
[14:32:00] &lt;ebel&gt; The LCoC is basically like the CoC, but more so.<br />
[14:32:05] &lt;tdr112&gt; and by signing it , this will stop?<br />
[14:32:17] &lt;czajkowski&gt; ebel: as I've said yer the same as UK the word needs to be better defined as POC translaes to team leader<br />
[14:32:38] &lt;kobrien&gt; clarification; which ones of us should sign it?<br />
[14:32:44] &lt;czajkowski&gt; tdr112: there are parts of it we can point to such as graceful stepping down in certain cirumstances<br />
[14:32:53] &lt;czajkowski&gt; kobrien: see this is also the thing<br />
[14:32:57] &lt;czajkowski&gt; we're looking at saying<br />
[14:33:04] &lt;czajkowski&gt; and this is still being discussied<br />
[14:33:09] &lt;czajkowski&gt; we only brought it up last night<br />
[14:33:10] &lt;ebel&gt; kobrien: basically, we don't knot. Who should sign the LCoC? Who knots...<br />
[14:33:11] &lt;tdr112&gt; why is there two of them<br />
[14:33:24] &lt;czajkowski&gt; but anyone with a responsibility should sign it<br />
[14:33:45] &lt;czajkowski&gt; tdr112: one is the CoC which every ubuntu member signs<br />
[14:33:49] &lt;kobrien&gt; czajkowski: webmaster included?<br />
[14:33:55] &lt;czajkowski&gt; the LCoc is for leadership roles<br />
[14:33:58] &lt;czajkowski&gt; kobrien: possibly<br />
[14:34:11] &lt;czajkowski&gt; this was only discussed last night council hasb't met yet to go over things<br />
[14:34:15] * tdr112 does not see the point <br />
[14:34:16] &lt;ebel&gt; I believe *anyone* can sign it (i.e. agree to it) if you want.<br />
[14:34:28] &lt;czajkowski&gt; so tbh it really makes no difference being on this agenda as it's going to be coming from higher up<br />
[14:34:37] &lt;czajkowski&gt; and we've not even had a chance to work on it<br />
[14:34:42] &lt;kobrien&gt; okies<br />
[14:35:07] &lt;ebel&gt; czajkowski: I will accept the title "team unleader" :P<br />
[14:35:22] &lt;czajkowski&gt; ebel: I'm not gonna repeat myself again :(<br />
[14:35:28] &lt;czajkowski&gt; sorry but we;ve not even met to work this out<br />
[14:35:44] &lt;ebel&gt; Yeah, perhaps there's no rush on this then.<br />
[14:35:51] &lt;airurando&gt; suggest we drop this discussion until guidance from council is forthcoming.<br />
[14:36:07] &lt;kobrien&gt; airurando: I second this<br />
[14:36:30] &lt;ebel&gt; And I can imagine that all these different teams have different structure, that makes this sort of work very frustrating<br />
[14:36:38] &lt;czajkowski&gt; I would siggest EVERYone follow the bug and suscribe to the blueprint<br />
[14:36:41] &lt;ebel&gt; [topic]  Geeknic and Lucid Lynx Release Party<br />
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[14:36:43] &lt;czajkowski&gt; so you are kept up to date<br />
[14:36:58] &lt;ebel&gt; that topic is from tdr112<br />
[14:37:08] &lt;tdr112&gt; 8 until 10.04<br />
[14:37:16] &lt;tdr112&gt; 8 days that is<br />
[14:37:34] &lt;tdr112&gt; so we want to come togehter for a geeknic<br />
[14:37:48] &lt;slashtom&gt; aye<br />
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[14:37:59] &lt;tdr112&gt; http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/node/95<br />
[14:38:09] &lt;tdr112&gt; page with details on it<br />
[14:38:30] &lt;slashtom&gt; if you need transport, you can buy a horse in smithfield and ride to the park<br />
[14:39:05] &lt;airurando&gt; slashtom: you selling them?<br />
[14:39:19] &lt;tdr112&gt; i will add more transport details tonight<br />
[14:39:24] &lt;ebel&gt; yes, so join us for the geek picnic (geeknic) and the ubuntu lucid lynx release party<br />
[14:39:25] &lt;tdr112&gt; to help people get there<br />
[14:39:28] &lt;slashtom&gt; we have 8 people confirmed and 3 maybes http://doodle.com/zk55ktcz74id5xzs<br />
[14:39:33] &lt;lau1&gt; there is good eating in a horse ;)<br />
[14:39:45] &lt;lau1&gt; sorry i am late<br />
[14:39:50] &lt;ebel&gt; lau1: oui oui :)<br />
[14:40:07] &lt;ebel&gt; Afterward we're going to the Bull and Castle pub<br />
[14:40:17] &lt;slashtom&gt; yes<br />
[14:40:25] &lt;airurando&gt; I can't make geeknic due to work but will hopefully hook up with you all later in the Bull and Castle<br />
[14:40:37] &lt;slashtom&gt; wet weather plan is, we still go to the pub<br />
[14:40:47] &lt;kobrien&gt; I'm trying to get to Geeknic but thesis may prevent me<br />
[14:40:52] &lt;cduffin&gt; so pub it is then?<br />
[14:41:05] &lt;czajkowski&gt; kobrien: how inconvient of it :)<br />
[14:41:41] &lt;czajkowski&gt; can the event please be added to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ie<br />
[14:41:41] &lt;slashtom&gt; czajkowski will also come if the volcano gods are unhappy<br />
[14:41:53] &lt;slashtom&gt; 3 places!<br />
[14:41:56] &lt;czajkowski&gt; no the volanon gods are to behave themselves<br />
[14:42:12] * slashtom has posted the event to ubuntu-ie.org, the wiki, geeknic.org<br />
[14:42:17] &lt;slashtom&gt; where else?<br />
[14:42:17] &lt;ebel&gt; czajkowski: that's the loco directory, right?<br />
[14:42:19] &lt;czajkowski&gt; yes<br />
[14:42:34] &lt;czajkowski&gt; the LD should be the 2nd place all events should be posted<br />
[14:42:34] &lt;slashtom&gt; also done the ILUG mailing list, the Ubuntu-ie mailing list<br />
[14:42:36] &lt;slashtom&gt; why?<br />
[14:42:45] &lt;czajkowski&gt; as that's where statistics will be pulled from<br />
[14:42:52] * slashtom should be posting this event to one place only<br />
[14:43:06] &lt;slashtom&gt; this is very bad information management<br />
[14:43:22] &lt;czajkowski&gt; slashtom: file a bug :) but I've not heard any other team say this so I don['t know :(<br />
[14:43:24] &lt;ebel&gt; czajkowski: so we *don't* need the wiki for events for the loco council people?<br />
[14:43:26] &lt;ebel&gt; :P<br />
[14:43:31] &lt;kobrien&gt; suggests opensourceireland.org<br />
[14:43:38] * slashtom screams<br />
[14:43:52] * cduffin covers ears<br />
[14:43:58] &lt;slashtom&gt; kobrien: please add it to opensourceireland.org<br />
[14:44:00] &lt;czajkowski&gt; kobrien: not an option<br />
[14:44:09] &lt;slashtom&gt; czajkowski: please add it to LD<br />
[14:44:16] &lt;kobrien&gt; czajkowski: elaborate<br />
[14:44:24] &lt;cduffin&gt; the geeknic is already on osi<br />
[14:44:30] &lt;slashtom&gt; grand<br />
[14:44:57] &lt;czajkowski&gt; kobrien: all our evnets need to be on ubuntu places first after that I really don't mind tbh<br />
[14:45:03] &lt;slashtom&gt; cduffin: is the pub specified on osi? i added it later?<br />
[14:45:15] &lt;cduffin&gt; it is<br />
[14:45:21] &lt;slashtom&gt; thanks<br />
[14:45:40] * slashtom is not going to add the event anywhere else<br />
[14:45:47] &lt;airurando&gt; doesn't opensourceireland.org pull from ubuntu-ie.org cal?<br />
[14:45:52] &lt;slashtom&gt; if others want to post it elsewhere, they are free to do so<br />
[14:45:57] &lt;slashtom&gt; and welcome to it<br />
[14:46:05] &lt;cduffin&gt; airuando: it does<br />
[14:46:08] &lt;kobrien&gt; czajkowski: ah, makes sense<br />
[14:46:26] &lt;czajkowski&gt; I do make sense from time to time ocassionally<br />
[14:46:42] &lt;airurando&gt; cduffin: no extra work there so.<br />
[14:47:05] &lt;cduffin&gt; airuando: that's the idea :p<br />
[14:47:18] &lt;ebel&gt; cduffin: sounds clever. Something the LD should do, instead of asking all us loco to do extra work :P<br />
[14:47:23] &lt;czajkowski&gt; slashtom: I can't add it to the LD as I' m not an admin for ireland but can add global events<br />
[14:47:46] * czajkowski is going to bed not in the mood for potshots at the LD or ubuntu tbh<br />
[14:47:49] &lt;czajkowski&gt; g'night<br />
[14:47:58] &lt;slashtom&gt; goodnight<br />
[14:48:02] &lt;kobrien&gt; nn<br />
[14:48:06] &lt;ebel&gt; czajkowski: night<br />
[14:48:56] &lt;ebel&gt; czajkowski: erm, you're the next topic....<br />
[14:49:07] &lt;czajkowski&gt; ok<br />
[14:49:18] &lt;slashtom&gt; have we finished with the geeknic?<br />
[14:49:29] &lt;kobrien&gt; seems so<br />
[14:49:38] &lt;ebel&gt; [topic]  Where to get started helping out in Ubuntu<br />
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[14:49:45] &lt;ebel&gt; suggested by czajkowski<br />
[14:49:58] &lt;czajkowski&gt; ok I got asked the othe day where folks can get involved<br />
[14:50:13] &lt;czajkowski&gt; there are a number of areas if you want to help<br />
[14:50:16] * cduffin is intrigued<br />
[14:50:33] &lt;czajkowski&gt; Translations - not just Irish, but also English fro USA to GB english<br />
[14:50:45] &lt;czajkowski&gt; cduffin: ok what area would you like to help out in<br />
[14:51:33] &lt;cduffin&gt; packaging and maintenance is intriguing<br />
[14:51:54] &lt;cduffin&gt; but tbh, I'd be happy just to get involved<br />
[14:51:59] &lt;cduffin&gt; foot in the door etc etc<br />
[14:52:09] &lt;ebel&gt; packaging is easy<br />
[14:52:18] &lt;ebel&gt; I was playing with some ubuntu packages today in work<br />
[14:52:51] &lt;kobrien&gt; I'll be doing more debugging/packaging after thesis....any day now<br />
[14:52:51] &lt;czajkowski&gt; cduffin: ok so we have the MOTU board ther and folks run packaging sessions<br />
[14:53:13] * kobrien must try become a motu<br />
[14:53:38] &lt;cduffin&gt; czajkowski: sounds good<br />
[14:53:45] &lt;czajkowski&gt; kobrien: ok tomorrow during the day let me introcudce you to some folks<br />
[14:54:00] &lt;kobrien&gt; czajkowski: excellent. =)<br />
[14:54:14] &lt;czajkowski&gt; they have mentors and teach and show folks<br />
[14:54:21] &lt;czajkowski&gt; and its a nice way to get involved<br />
[14:54:28] &lt;czajkowski&gt; ot's not my area but I know about it<br />
[14:54:36] &lt;kobrien&gt; I could probably do with a mentor<br />
[14:54:37] &lt;czajkowski&gt; anyone else want to get inovled and doesn't know where?<br />
[14:54:48] &lt;czajkowski&gt; also have folks heard about open week ??<br />
[14:54:53] &lt;czajkowski&gt; !uow<br />
[14:54:55] &lt;ubot3&gt; Ubuntu is hosting a series of introductory sessions for people who want to join the Ubuntu community, which all takes place in a week. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek for schedules, logs, and instructions.<br />
[14:54:55] &lt;ebel&gt; I know a little bit about pacakaging<br />
[14:54:59] &lt;ebel&gt; only for my own purposes<br />
[14:55:13] &lt;ebel&gt; so feel free to fire me any questions.<br />
[14:55:22] &lt;lau1&gt; Ping me for packaging I am interested too<br />
[14:55:25] &lt;ebel&gt; I'm not a MOTU or anything important like that :)<br />
[14:56:16] &lt;czajkowski&gt; do folks know about #ubuntu-classroom<br />
[14:56:22] &lt;czajkowski&gt; thre are often classes on in there<br />
[14:56:29] &lt;cduffin&gt; I do now :p<br />
[14:56:46] &lt;czajkowski&gt; you can always just ask for a session and perhaps someone would ruhn one if ther are 2-3 people there<br />
[14:56:58] * kobrien notes this<br />
[14:58:04] &lt;czajkowski&gt; Adopting a Package and being an upstream contact - Jorge Castro and Sense Hofstede<br />
[14:58:08] &lt;czajkowski&gt; or<br />
[14:58:28] &lt;czajkowski&gt;  <br />
[14:58:29] &lt;czajkowski&gt; Ubuntu Development II - Daniel Holbach<br />
[14:58:35] &lt;czajkowski&gt; in uow<br />
[14:58:38] &lt;czajkowski&gt; also<br />
[14:58:42] &lt;czajkowski&gt; do folks know about UDS ??<br />
[14:59:21] &lt;cduffin&gt; yes<br />
[14:59:46] &lt;kobrien&gt; czajkowski: If I'm packaging a new package and need support?<br />
[15:00:02] &lt;czajkowski&gt; did you know you can remotely partipcate<br />
[15:00:06] &lt;kobrien&gt; for it to be distributed with Ubuntu<br />
[15:00:24] &lt;ebel&gt; kobrien, cduffin: ye know about PPAs on launchpad?<br />
[15:00:30] &lt;kobrien&gt; ebel: yes<br />
[15:00:37] &lt;cduffin&gt; ebel: yes<br />
[15:00:40] &lt;ebel&gt; It lets you put your own packages there, and people can install them.<br />
[15:00:41] &lt;czajkowski&gt; and we want input from people not there<br />
[15:01:44] &lt;czajkowski&gt; anyone else want to know about getting involved<br />
[15:01:48] &lt;kobrien&gt; ebel: but I need my package in universe repo<br />
[15:02:25] &lt;ebel&gt; czajkowski: that's some very helpful information :)<br />
[15:03:28] &lt;czajkowski&gt; I'll do a blog post this week about remote particiption<br />
[15:03:34] &lt;czajkowski&gt; but we really encourage people to log in<br />
[15:03:36] &lt;tdr112&gt; 7866~70~o=8'~=]<br />
[15:03:44] &lt;czajkowski&gt; there will be a lot of new channels set up for UDS<br />
[15:03:48] &lt;cduffin&gt; czajkowksi: awesome<br />
[15:03:49] &lt;czajkowski&gt; and the time table in advance<br />
[15:03:53] &lt;czajkowski&gt; so you can join in<br />
[15:04:00] &lt;ebel&gt; :)<br />
[15:04:16] &lt;czajkowski&gt; if anyone wants to get involved in the community do poke me either on irc<br />
[15:04:17] &lt;czajkowski&gt; or<br />
[15:04:24] &lt;czajkowski&gt; <--------------@ubuntu.com<br />
[15:04:39] &lt;czajkowski&gt; as when I come back from UDS I'll be poking folks to get their membership also<br />
[15:04:40] &lt;tdr112&gt; i will<br />
[15:04:44] &lt;czajkowski&gt; we got 5 new folks last year<br />
[15:05:10] &lt;czajkowski&gt; anyting else?<br />
[15:05:26] &lt;ebel&gt; don't think so...<br />
[15:05:30] &lt;czajkowski&gt; ok<br />
[15:05:31] &lt;czajkowski&gt; nn<br />
[15:05:33] &lt;airurando&gt; czajkowski: Thanks for the info.<br />
[15:05:38] &lt;ebel&gt; [topic]  opensourceireland.org<br />
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[15:05:41] &lt;czajkowski&gt; 4 hrs sleeps is killing me<br />
[15:05:42] &lt;ebel&gt; from kobrien...<br />
[15:06:08] &lt;kobrien&gt; cduffin: ping<br />
[15:06:16] &lt;kobrien&gt; I posted that on cduffins behalf<br />
[15:06:18] &lt;slashtom&gt; czajkowski: go sleep<br />
[15:06:20] &lt;cduffin&gt; sorry got distracted :-|<br />
[15:06:44] &lt;cduffin&gt; what is everyones impression of the current progress of OSI?<br />
[15:06:51] &lt;cduffin&gt; and how would you like to see it shape?<br />
[15:07:25] &lt;ebel&gt; cduffin: can you give us a overview of it.....<br />
[15:07:34] &lt;slashtom&gt; apologies i missed your talk at ossbarcamp, was nursing ebel<br />
[15:07:38] &lt;cduffin&gt; ebel: sure<br />
[15:07:50] &lt;cduffin&gt; the idea of the site is to resolve issues that were touched on earlier<br />
[15:08:10] &lt;cduffin&gt; the Open Source community in Ireland is obviously strong and growing<br />
[15:08:16] &lt;slashtom&gt; by adding another group and website?<br />
[15:08:30] &lt;cduffin&gt; but it is fragmented and information is spread over too many different places<br />
[15:08:34] &lt;tdr112&gt; what does your site add<br />
[15:08:54] &lt;cduffin&gt; slashtom: the idea is to bring all the sites together, all central place for everything<br />
[15:09:08] &lt;cduffin&gt; so groups can share info so that users don't have to go looking for it...<br />
[15:09:30] &lt;cduffin&gt; why  go searching multiple pages for events when one site has a calendar containing them all<br />
[15:09:43] &lt;slashtom&gt; good idea<br />
[15:09:51] &lt;tdr112&gt; there are other place that do event calendars<br />
[15:09:58] &lt;tdr112&gt; places<br />
[15:09:59] &lt;cduffin&gt; groups, and projects can also get better exposure<br />
[15:10:08] &lt;slashtom&gt; there is openevents.ie iirc<br />
[15:10:19] &lt;cduffin&gt; tdr112: no point in just a glorified calendar<br />
[15:10:22] &lt;cduffin&gt; it needs more<br />
[15:10:25] &lt;slashtom&gt; and there are our *two* web sources<br />
[15:10:28] &lt;ebel&gt; cduffin: kudos on auto-pulling in events from a feed.<br />
[15:10:32] &lt;slashtom&gt; and a third when the LD is ready<br />
[15:10:43] &lt;cduffin&gt; slashtom: sorry LD?<br />
[15:10:55] &lt;slashtom&gt; loco directory, see earlier talk<br />
[15:11:00] &lt;cduffin&gt; ah, ok<br />
[15:11:05] &lt;ebel&gt; cduffin: it's that sort of cleverness that could make it take off. make it so people don't have to think to be a part of it<br />
[15:11:06] &lt;kobrien&gt; openevents.ie doesn't see to be particularly active and appears to lack the ability to adapt to the community.<br />
[15:11:22] &lt;slashtom&gt; cduffin: it's a great idea, and having so many sources of information does annoy me<br />
[15:11:30] &lt;cduffin&gt; OSI, is the communities website... users can add content as they see fit<br />
[15:12:01] &lt;cduffin&gt; but obviously there is no point in me working on a site that "I" find useful...<br />
[15:12:15] &lt;cduffin&gt; Hence the question, how would you like the site to shape up?<br />
[15:12:35] &lt;slashtom&gt; if you can pull in feeds from elsewhere, and also maybe output your own twitter feed<br />
[15:12:48] &lt;kobrien&gt; we do<br />
[15:12:57] &lt;slashtom&gt; what's the twitter account<br />
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[15:12:59] &lt;kobrien&gt; http://twitter.com/osireland<br />
[15:13:18] &lt;cduffin&gt; Well twitter yes, I'm looking at how best to display aggregated content though<br />
[15:13:24] &lt;cduffin&gt; on the site<br />
[15:13:31] * slashtom follows<br />
[15:13:41] &lt;airurando&gt; blog aggregator?<br />
[15:13:58] &lt;ebel&gt; yeah, a planet<br />
[15:14:20] &lt;slashtom&gt; cduffin: are you coming to the next ubuntu hour?<br />
[15:14:29] &lt;kobrien&gt; planet would be worth a looky<br />
[15:14:35] &lt;airurando&gt; list of mailing lists?<br />
[15:14:38] &lt;cduffin&gt; slashtom, I will<br />
[15:14:43] * slashtom sees ideas forming over beer :)<br />
[15:14:44] &lt;cduffin&gt; airuando: noted<br />
[15:14:51] &lt;ebel&gt; beer is good for ideas<br />
[15:14:52] * cduffin sees beer!!!<br />
[15:15:09] &lt;lau1&gt; just one for me<br />
[15:15:14] &lt;lau1&gt; ;)<br />
[15:15:48] &lt;airurando&gt; The more content that can be pulled from the various sources the better.<br />
[15:15:57] &lt;cduffin&gt; OK, well the site is there (albeit incomplete) if you have suggestions, feedback or criticism please feel free to add it to the site<br />
[15:16:02] &lt;cduffin&gt; airuando: yes<br />
[15:16:04] &lt;tdr112&gt; the less the groups have to do the better<br />
[15:16:08] &lt;slashtom&gt; i see a quality vs quantity issue<br />
[15:16:22] &lt;kobrien&gt; indeed. we've sent mail to several lists looking for support from various groups<br />
[15:16:27] &lt;airurando&gt; people might be hesitant to have another web presence where content has to be added manually<br />
[15:16:34] &lt;kobrien&gt; true<br />
[15:16:35] &lt;cduffin&gt; slashtom: we can look at filters<br />
[15:17:14] &lt;cduffin&gt; airuando: the *hope* is that you just have to set it up once for your group and the rest is automatic<br />
[15:17:29] &lt;cduffin&gt; ie you register a post feed and an events feed<br />
[15:17:33] &lt;ebel&gt; cduffin: a good goal :)<br />
[15:17:33] &lt;cduffin&gt; and done<br />
[15:17:41] &lt;airurando&gt; cduffin: now that sounds excellent.<br />
[15:18:10] &lt;kobrien&gt; :)<br />
[15:18:12] * cduffin 's head is overflowing<br />
[15:18:30] &lt;cduffin&gt; cheers for the input guys<br />
[15:18:32] &lt;ebel&gt; cduffin: cool<br />
[15:18:45] &lt;ebel&gt; We'll have a chat at the ubuntu hour. :)<br />
[15:18:57] &lt;ebel&gt; anything else on this topic?<br />
[15:18:57] &lt;cduffin&gt; ebel: look forward to it<br />
[15:19:09] &lt;ebel&gt; I think i need to schedule that ubuntu hour :)<br />
[15:19:18] &lt;cduffin&gt; think topic is finished<br />
[15:19:25] &lt;airurando&gt; ebel: its done<br />
[15:19:29] &lt;cduffin&gt; only kobrien thinks different<br />
[15:19:31] &lt;kobrien&gt; agreed<br />
[15:19:33] &lt;ebel&gt; [topic] any other business?<br />
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[15:19:34] &lt;kobrien&gt; finished<br />
[15:19:36] &lt;tdr112&gt; yep<br />
[15:19:41] &lt;cduffin&gt; cools<br />
[15:20:05] &lt;tdr112&gt; czajkowski is going for EMEA nominations if you would like to leave a testimonial on her wiki page feel free https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski<br />
[15:20:24] &lt;tdr112&gt; anyone can leave one<br />
[15:20:38] &lt;kobrien&gt; hmm, will do<br />
[15:20:41] &lt;airurando&gt; definately on my to do list<br />
[15:21:04] &lt;ebel&gt; tdr112: she kept that quiet<br />
[15:21:09] &lt;ebel&gt; I'll add something in.<br />
[15:21:44] &lt;tdr112&gt; she has help out this loco a lot it would be nice for people to write a little some thing<br />
[15:21:49] &lt;tdr112&gt; helped<br />
[15:22:00] &lt;lau1&gt; will do<br />
[15:22:18] &lt;ebel&gt; Yeah, will do<br />
[15:22:25] &lt;tdr112&gt; thats all i have<br />
[15:22:30] &lt;ebel&gt; tdr112: thanks for the heads up<br />
[15:22:33] &lt;kobrien&gt; so far as opensourceireland is concerned, people are adding their personal profiles to the site. these are generally a few words about yourself. It'd be nice to have a directory of all opensource people in ireland<br />
[15:22:53] &lt;kobrien&gt; comments?<br />
[15:23:42] &lt;ebel&gt; kobrien: How about people being able to pull it from LinkedIn, or facebook, or launchpad or something?<br />
[15:24:09] &lt;kobrien&gt; ebel: good suggestion. this is a duplication of data they've inputted elsewhere<br />
[15:24:22] &lt;cduffin&gt; ebel: :-O jesus I'll be a drupal genius by the time I'm done with this :p<br />
[15:24:38] &lt;kobrien&gt; cduffin: tis your reward :)<br />
[15:25:22] &lt;ebel&gt; aaaanyways<br />
[15:25:27] * ebel wraps the meeting up<br />
[15:25:31] &lt;kobrien&gt; cool<br />
[15:25:32] &lt;ebel&gt; [topic] anything else?<br />
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[15:25:39] &lt;cduffin&gt; nopes<br />
[15:25:44] &lt;ebel&gt; #endmeeting<br />
Meeting ended.<br />