Started logging meeting in #ubuntu-au<br />
[06:00:20] &lt;kermiac&gt; ok... no probs. I think i've done that before. I'll figure it out<br />
[06:01:07] &lt;head_victim&gt; The meeting agenda I will be running through tonight is as always located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings<br />
[06:01:23] &lt;head_victim&gt; As a result I would like to start with the rollcall<br />
[06:01:48] &lt;head_victim&gt; [TOPIC] Rollcall - a brief period where people can state their presence so that mootbot will pick up you attended.<br />
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[06:01:54] &lt;head_victim&gt; So I'll start<br />
[06:01:56] &lt;head_victim&gt; "here"<br />
[06:02:02] &lt;fr0de&gt; here<br />
[06:02:03] &lt;iflema&gt; present<br />
[06:02:11] &lt;clubbed2death&gt; here<br />
[06:02:27] &lt;darkrose&gt; I'm not missing<br />
[06:03:21] &lt;head_victim&gt; Anyone else here?<br />
[06:03:33] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; yep<br />
[06:03:37] &lt;nisshh&gt; yea<br />
[06:03:39] &lt;nisshh&gt; im here<br />
[06:03:42] &lt;kermiac&gt; I'm here<br />
[06:03:54] &lt;Sego&gt; [just watching]<br />
[06:04:05] &lt;head_victim&gt; Sego: not a problem at all, I did a bit of that when I started out myself.<br />
[06:04:14] &lt;Sego&gt; :)<br />
[06:05:39] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok so we can keep moving along that should do it, if anyone else joins in later they can just add a comment to log their attendance.<br />
[06:05:47] &lt;head_victim&gt; Following on from the agenda<br />
[06:06:01] &lt;head_victim&gt; [TOPIC] Ubuntu-AU Gaming<br />
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[06:06:35] &lt;head_victim&gt; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/Gaming<br />
[06:07:10] &lt;head_victim&gt; A few of us regulars from the irc world have reinitiated a previous idea of having a gaming group going<br />
[06:08:17] &lt;head_victim&gt; It's essentially a social outlet for us all and also raises awareness of this group to the gaming community<br />
[06:08:23] &lt;fr0de&gt; I think it's a fine idea, even if I don't play much myself.. :)<br />
[06:08:34] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; seems like a good idea to me <br />
[06:08:50] &lt;head_victim&gt; I have already had a bunch of gaming regulars on the games I play ask me what does UAU mean? ANd then I can explain Ubuntu and the existence of this group to them<br />
[06:08:50] &lt;kermiac&gt; even n00bs like me are invited, I've lost count of the number of headshots I've been on the receiving end of hehe...<br />
[06:08:53] &lt;head_victim&gt; It's a nice little "in"<br />
[06:09:28] &lt;nisshh&gt; same, iv also had others ask what my tag is<br />
[06:09:51] &lt;head_victim&gt; kermiac: yeah the idea is it's an "open" group to anyone that is already a member of Ubuntu-AU, no skills required<br />
[06:10:20] &lt;darkrose&gt; nisshh demonstrates the 'no skills required' part<br />
[06:10:30] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; head_victim, : thank goodness for that or I'd be in trouble :P <br />
[06:10:39] * dns53 will have to join you some time<br />
[06:11:00] &lt;kermiac&gt; yup, I'm the epitome of "no skills required" ;)<br />
[06:11:04] &lt;nisshh&gt; darkrose: hehe, thanks, i do ok though, i have been getting better recently<br />
[06:11:18] &lt;fr0de&gt; starting to feel inspired to join in the fun..<br />
[06:11:28] &lt;clubbed2death&gt; what game(s) specifically?<br />
[06:11:34] &lt;darkrose&gt; there's generally few of us in Urban Terror, about this time of night... think we had six in one server once<br />
[06:11:45] &lt;nisshh&gt; yea<br />
[06:11:57] &lt;kermiac&gt; fr0de: it's all good fun. Most of us have been playing Urban Terror<br />
[06:12:00] &lt;nisshh&gt; clubbed2death: although we are open to suggestions<br />
[06:12:15] &lt;darkrose&gt; and when there's several of us is when they start asking "what is UAU" the most<br />
[06:12:29] &lt;head_victim&gt; By all means if people have other favourites they should be adding them to the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/Gaming so we cann all share<br />
[06:12:37] &lt;fr0de&gt; I'm sure I'm a bit rusty, but might pop in one night.. :)<br />
[06:12:59] &lt;nisshh&gt; fr0de: if you rusty its more fun<br />
[06:13:03] &lt;nisshh&gt; your*<br />
[06:13:03] &lt;head_victim&gt; We generally announce what server we're going to in #ubuntu-au-chat so anyone else around can join int<br />
[06:13:20] &lt;fr0de&gt; nisshh, more fun, *for you*! :P<br />
[06:13:28] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok, anyone else have any comments to make on the gaming or can I move on?<br />
[06:13:29] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: what is happening with our own server?<br />
[06:13:32] &lt;kermiac&gt; it's all about getting together and having fun, like nisshh said - the rustier you are the more fun we have<br />
[06:13:37] &lt;nisshh&gt; fr0de: yep!<br />
[06:13:41] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: we have our own server?<br />
[06:13:51] &lt;nisshh&gt; wasnt quail offering his?<br />
[06:14:03] &lt;nisshh&gt; or something<br />
[06:14:15] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: oh, sorry, didn't hear that, by all means. Just gotta add it to the wiki<br />
[06:14:39] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: i dont know much about it, someone was talking about it the other day<br />
[06:14:51] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: no worries mate<br />
[06:14:52] &lt;fr0de&gt; add the bit about announcing in chat, while you are there. head_victim :)<br />
[06:15:20] &lt;quail&gt; server?<br />
[06:15:29] &lt;head_victim&gt; [ACTION] Need to add more detail about how to communicate when/where we're playing to the wiki<br />
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[06:15:51] &lt;nisshh&gt; quail: nvm, i thought it was you offering your server for the clan to use for UT<br />
[06:16:05] &lt;head_victim&gt; gorilla: ping?<br />
[06:16:17] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: hes not in, already tried<br />
[06:16:23] &lt;fr0de&gt; anyone play games in Wine?<br />
[06:16:40] &lt;quail&gt; nisshh: I had a UrT server up and running couple years back for the clan and it hardly got used<br />
[06:16:40] &lt;nisshh&gt; iv tried<br />
[06:16:48] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; I be here now ... sorry for being late ;)<br />
[06:17:14] &lt;nisshh&gt; quail: yea, we should see what happens, it could be interesting to have our own one<br />
[06:18:01] &lt;head_victim&gt; Well if people are willing to donate bandwidth to it great but for now I think it's going ok with just using other peoples. After all bandwidth = money<br />
[06:18:04] &lt;nisshh&gt; what about a set gaming day/time?<br />
[06:18:16] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: true<br />
[06:18:42] &lt;darkrose&gt; nisshh, sometime between 7pm and 2am has been pretty average for times<br />
[06:18:47] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: if you want to add an "upcoming dates" to the wiki that might be an idea?<br />
[06:18:54] &lt;nisshh&gt; yea<br />
[06:19:12] &lt;head_victim&gt; [IDEA] Add upcoming gaming dates to wiki as well<br />
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[06:19:18] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: you mean on the main page or gaming page?<br />
[06:19:21] &lt;kermiac&gt; so i can anticipate the next headshot?? ;)<br />
[06:19:30] &lt;nisshh&gt; kermiac: ppffff you wish<br />
[06:19:34] &lt;kermiac&gt; haha<br />
[06:19:42] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: gaming I think, but maybe on the ubuntu.org.au site as well?<br />
[06:19:55] &lt;head_victim&gt; If memory serves me there is a calendar on that site?<br />
[06:19:57] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: yea, but i dont have access to the site<br />
[06:20:15] &lt;nisshh&gt; can anyone add stuff to the calendar?<br />
[06:20:26] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: I would send your ideas to blahdeblah as noted in a previous email to the list, he can update the page (there is also a list of website admins on the wiki)<br />
[06:20:38] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: ok cool<br />
[06:21:21] &lt;head_victim&gt; Anything else needed to be covered?<br />
[06:21:34] &lt;nisshh&gt; no, thats it from me for now<br />
[06:21:55] &lt;head_victim&gt; I might bump the next agenda item to see if gorilla turns up to talk about it as he added it.<br />
[06:22:00] &lt;head_victim&gt; blahdeblah: you around?<br />
[06:22:02] &lt;kermiac&gt; maybe announce the next day on the ML too<br />
[06:22:30] &lt;kermiac&gt; [IDEA] Send email to mailing list announcing upcoming gaming dates<br />
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[06:22:48] &lt;kermiac&gt; reminders are good<br />
[06:22:51] &lt;nisshh&gt; kermiac: yep<br />
[06:23:00] &lt;nisshh&gt; ill do all that<br />
[06:23:05] &lt;darkrose&gt; it tends not to be 'dates' so much as 'a couple of hours at night'<br />
[06:23:20] &lt;kermiac&gt; awesome, thanks nisshh<br />
[06:23:25] * VK7HSE agrees <br />
[06:23:37] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok I might hold off that one until blahdeblah shows as well.<br />
[06:23:38] &lt;nisshh&gt; darkrose: yea, but id like to have a dedicated one day a year event where we sit down and game for 3-4 hours<br />
[06:23:48] &lt;nisshh&gt; that would be cool<br />
[06:23:59] &lt;head_victim&gt; [TOPIC] Results on wiki design - VK7HSE <br />
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[06:24:00] * darkrose nods<br />
[06:24:17] &lt;nisshh&gt; darkrose: on top of what we already do of course<br />
[06:24:35] * darkrose nods<br />
[06:24:48] &lt;head_victim&gt; VK7HSE: you have the floor, do you want to please update us the outcome of the poll please<br />
[06:25:23] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; Oh ok ... well the summery on the meeting agenda is basically it :(<br />
[06:25:41] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; a post was made to the ML  ...<br />
[06:25:42] &lt;nisshh&gt; man of few words VK7HSE :)<br />
[06:26:02] &lt;head_victim&gt; ok so it's agreed to keep the current layout but add the bar at the top to all the main pages of the wiki instead of just the front page?<br />
[06:26:07] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; but only 13 added content with the majority in favour for what is now the current layout ...<br />
[06:26:35] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; what was the 'former' layout? <br />
[06:26:45] &lt;nisshh&gt; somethinginteres: tables<br />
[06:26:46] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; somethinginteres: it was table based ... <br />
[06:26:48] &lt;nisshh&gt; i think<br />
[06:26:48] &lt;head_victim&gt; Does anyone have any links that they want added to the wiki bar? Is there any locations within our wiki you regularly go to that you fell would be benficial to have in the bar?<br />
[06:27:03] &lt;nisshh&gt; projects<br />
[06:27:03] &lt;head_victim&gt; somethinginteres: was a large table with the same info<br />
[06:27:05] &lt;elky&gt; somethinginteres, it was a grid and all the info was on the screen at page load time.<br />
[06:27:22] &lt;nisshh&gt; i think somethinginteres gets the point :)<br />
[06:27:31] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: projects is already there<br />
[06:27:38] &lt;kermiac&gt; I didn't vote as it really doesn't affect me either way. I like the new "current" layout, but I don't need to refer to it that often. Also, I know the pages I'm looking for so I just go directly to my bookmarks<br />
[06:27:43] &lt;nisshh&gt; oh, geez, need to use my eyes<br />
[06:28:16] &lt;nisshh&gt; im happy as long as we dont go back to table based<br />
[06:28:36] &lt;nisshh&gt; reminds me too much of the way HTML used to be written in the 90's<br />
[06:28:36] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; you know, it is probably just me but I didn't even notice the bar when I first visited <br />
[06:28:37] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; lol<br />
[06:28:37] &lt;kermiac&gt; i like the way the wiki "as a whole" has been re-organised & updated though. good job head_victim :)<br />
[06:28:48] &lt;elky&gt; Is that a challenge for me to replicate it in css and divs, nisshh?<br />
[06:29:03] &lt;head_victim&gt; kermiac: thanks, it's been a labour of love<br />
[06:29:14] &lt;nisshh&gt; elky: you have much to learn grasshopper<br />
[06:29:26] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: thats a big call<br />
[06:29:27] &lt;nisshh&gt; elky: in other words, no<br />
[06:29:32] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; IMHO the wiki will look a lot better once the new theme is in place to match that of the current theme to the main ubuntu page ...<br />
[06:29:49] &lt;elky&gt; Tehehe<br />
[06:30:12] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok, so we'll leave it as is until someone else has any other ideas as the current layout seems to suit the majority of users.<br />
[06:30:22] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: who says i cant intimidate elky, someone has to keep him in line :)<br />
[06:30:38] &lt;fr0de&gt; her<br />
[06:30:38] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: elky is not a him :D And good luck intimidating.<br />
[06:31:02] &lt;nisshh&gt; oops, sorry her, and good point<br />
[06:31:08] * nisshh bows to elky<br />
[06:31:24] &lt;elky&gt; Heh<br />
[06:31:31] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok, thats sorted<br />
[06:32:21] &lt;head_victim&gt; [TOPIC] Results on Team Restructure - nisshh <br />
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[06:33:08] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: Do you want to formalise what we've already noticed about that particular vote please?<br />
[06:33:17] &lt;nisshh&gt; uh, yea ok<br />
[06:33:41] &lt;nisshh&gt; basically, everyone escept 5 people voted for the 1a option on the wiki<br />
[06:34:02] &lt;nisshh&gt; which is meticracy<br />
[06:34:09] &lt;nisshh&gt; or however you say it<br />
[06:34:36] &lt;fr0de&gt; meritocracy?<br />
[06:34:53] &lt;head_victim&gt; nisshh: ok thanks for running the poll, despite the flak you copped over it.<br />
[06:35:03] &lt;nisshh&gt; fr0de: thanks :) i never learnt how to spell right<br />
[06:35:09] &lt;head_victim&gt; I guess we all need to decide how to move forward from that vote then.<br />
[06:35:21] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: its fine, someone had to do it i suppose<br />
[06:35:55] &lt;head_victim&gt; For those who have forgotten, the details of that vote are on the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Proposed-Council-Structure<br />
[06:36:51] &lt;head_victim&gt; [IDEA] Need to update the wiki page to reflect the outcome of the poll so that we can have further discussion on the positions described in the model on the mailing list to include all members<br />
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[06:37:33] &lt;kermiac&gt; nisshh: good job with the poll mate, I'm glad you've got thick skin. We needed to come to some kind of decision on how to move forward & structure was the first step towards reaching that goal<br />
[06:37:41] &lt;head_victim&gt; Anyone have any other ideas on how to go forward with this?<br />
[06:37:56] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; what was the url for the second poll setup on doodle ??<br />
[06:38:09] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; and what was it for again ?<br />
[06:38:23] &lt;nisshh&gt; kermiac: thanks, i got hatemail from alot of people about it but i was like "what the hell, ill do it anyway"<br />
[06:38:31] &lt;head_victim&gt; VK7HSE: http://www.doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=zift4eahcy3mrvv9&adminKey=&participantKey=&expandedTab=&summary=more<br />
[06:38:38] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; thanks ;)<br />
[06:38:48] &lt;fr0de&gt; head_victim, I guess there's a list of who is currently doing what already?<br />
[06:39:00] &lt;head_victim&gt; fr0de: most of it is available on the wiki<br />
[06:39:16] &lt;nisshh&gt; i think thats sorted out too<br />
[06:39:18] &lt;head_victim&gt; [IDEA] Formalise the list of people already doing positions on the wiki<br />
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[06:39:19] &lt;nisshh&gt; the roles<br />
[06:39:52] &lt;kermiac&gt; nisshh: yup, I remember discussing that. That's why i made a point of thanking you. You volunteered to create the poll after we (as a team) decided to try & move forward.<br />
[06:40:07] &lt;nisshh&gt; kermiac: yea<br />
[06:40:33] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok, there is already a bunch of info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/ContactUs <br />
[06:40:44] &lt;head_victim&gt; I think that would be the best place to add in the missing information <br />
[06:41:11] &lt;kermiac&gt; +1 head_victim, I like the idea of having somewhere to point people to who are asking "who does what"<br />
[06:42:13] &lt;head_victim&gt; Anyone else have any other ideas that would be better suited?<br />
[06:42:35] &lt;nisshh&gt; nope<br />
[06:43:00] &lt;kermiac&gt; once all the info is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/ContactUs, an email should be sent to the mailing list<br />
[06:43:10] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; I can't type fast enough to say what I'm thinking, so I'll post my thoughts to the ML ...<br />
[06:43:28] * VK7HSE they are not bad thoughts! (for once!)<br />
[06:43:30] &lt;darkrose&gt; team contact: does elky still want the job? should she stay in it? should someone else take over?<br />
[06:43:34] * kermiac offers VK7HSE some spare fingers<br />
[06:43:37] &lt;head_victim&gt; VK7HSE: sorry, trying to get through what needs to be said within the hour :/<br />
[06:43:54] &lt;fr0de&gt; Either all went silent, or I'm laggy...<br />
[06:44:00] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; there is no hour time limit ... at least that I'm aware of ;)<br />
[06:44:03] &lt;nisshh&gt; fr0de: all went silent<br />
[06:44:16] &lt;head_victim&gt; [ACTION] head_victim will update the wiki Contact Us page to reflect the roles voted on so discussions can be held<br />
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[06:44:28] &lt;elky&gt; darkrose, I mostly want a capable leadership, and I'm not too fussed either way.<br />
[06:44:54] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: one last thing, can you include the irc nicks of the people on that page, its handy to know who is who without having to look at the members page<br />
[06:44:58] &lt;chesty&gt; so the team contact is the leader?<br />
[06:45:07] &lt;elky&gt; darkrose, I think head_victim has shown great leadership the past few months, I'd be comfortable stepping back with him leading<br />
[06:45:11] &lt;head_victim&gt; [ACTION] Update the wiki page about the proposed council leadership page to reflect the vote outcome<br />
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[06:45:25] &lt;elky&gt; chesty, to a degree.<br />
[06:45:37] &lt;head_victim&gt; The team contact is the liason between canonical an d the team if I understand correctly<br />
[06:45:42] &lt;darkrose&gt; elky, I was thinking the same thing, if you didn't want to stay, or whatever<br />
[06:45:49] &lt;kermiac&gt; doesn't the team contact need to be an Ubuntu Member?<br />
[06:45:55] &lt;nisshh&gt; elky: but if darkrose was leader, we would all get lollipops :)<br />
[06:46:00] &lt;elky&gt; kermiac, no, they should aspire to be one though<br />
[06:46:03] &lt;dns53&gt; the contact does not need to be a member<br />
[06:46:24] &lt;elky&gt; nisshh, no, we'd get stabbed with lollypop sticks.<br />
[06:46:26] &lt;head_victim&gt; Well would it help the discussion if there was a "job description" posted for all the roles on the contact us page as well?<br />
[06:46:29] &lt;nisshh&gt; elky: hehe<br />
[06:46:42] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: yea<br />
[06:46:54] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; I think that maybe as a group we should focus on attempting to obtain membership (ubuntu)  ... thoughts ?<br />
[06:46:56] &lt;elky&gt; head_victim, you can recycle the mail I wrote months back if you like<br />
[06:47:36] &lt;head_victim&gt; elky:  to just put on the wiki you mean?<br />
[06:47:37] &lt;VK7HSE&gt; individual ubuntu membership I meant ..<br />
[06:47:39] &lt;elky&gt; VK7HSE, membership is an individual thing. members of -au should become members in their own right<br />
[06:48:05] &lt;elky&gt; head_victim, you might need to edit it a bit, but sure.<br />
[06:48:07] &lt;head_victim&gt; I think we should support those wanting to obtain membership but it shouldn't be a driving force behind the team.<br />
[06:48:13] &lt;elky&gt; head_victim, yeah, exactly<br />
[06:48:47] &lt;nisshh&gt; next thing?<br />
[06:49:03] &lt;kermiac&gt; VK7HSE: a lot of us are putting in the work to try to obtain membership, but that should be an individual choice as there is a lot of work involved in that process<br />
[06:49:11] * VK7HSE I'm focused on Debian , but that's just me  :)<br />
[06:49:22] &lt;nisshh&gt; yea<br />
[06:49:29] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok I've already made actions to update the wiki so is gorilla or blahdeblah around?<br />
[06:49:34] &lt;nisshh&gt; im working on membership for myself too<br />
[06:50:52] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok they're still not in so I might just mention their topics and see how we feel.<br />
[06:51:34] &lt;head_victim&gt; [TOPIC] Software Freedom Day - Being held 19th September, anyone have any ideas for involvement?<br />
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[06:51:52] &lt;nisshh&gt; head_victim: link to info on it?<br />
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[06:52:21] &lt;darkrose&gt; http://softwarefreedomday.org/<br />
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[06:52:41] &lt;kermiac&gt; http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/<br />
[06:53:07] &lt;nisshh&gt; ah, thanks darkrose <br />
[06:53:20] &lt;nisshh&gt; and kermiac lol<br />
[06:53:47] &lt;kermiac&gt; yeah, i lagged ;)<br />
[06:53:56] &lt;fr0de&gt; the second link is the best<br />
[06:54:02] &lt;nisshh&gt; ok<br />
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[06:54:04] &lt;head_victim&gt; http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2010/Oceania/Australia?highlight=%28\bCategoryCountry\b%29<br />
[06:54:08] &lt;elky&gt; IMHO, If your lug is greater than (or mostly comprised of) the local group of Ubuntu-Au members, then you really should be focussing on how Ubuntu-Au can help the LUG.<br />
[06:54:11] &lt;head_victim&gt; That is a list of currently organised locations<br />
[06:54:25] &lt;nisshh&gt; elky: yea<br />
[06:55:15] &lt;fr0de&gt; I just joined the Sydney group's facebook<br />
[06:55:18] &lt;elky&gt; If not, you should try seek help from the LUG, but don't be surprised if you find yourself as a tall poppy<br />
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[06:55:22] &lt;fr0de&gt; http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=138056116221615<br />
[06:56:18] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok, so if people look into the idea and locations and maybe if people are looking to co-ordinate something they could create a wiki page to organise Ubuntu-AU involvement?<br />
[06:57:53] &lt;nisshh&gt; yea, not much point me doing anything, there is only me in my area who uses linux<br />
[06:58:16] &lt;nisshh&gt; is anyoen from Perth here?<br />
[06:58:56] &lt;fr0de&gt; *tumbleweeds*<br />
[06:58:56] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; Adelaide has two user groups that I know of<br />
[06:59:16] &lt;head_victim&gt; If people want any resources from Canonical they need to have put in some ideas to a wiki and the mailing list sooner rather than later so it can be organised<br />
[06:59:41] &lt;nisshh&gt; fr0de: what?<br />
[06:59:49] &lt;kermiac&gt; are we entitled to any resources from Canonical now that we are "unapproved"?<br />
[07:00:05] &lt;head_victim&gt; kermiac: to my knowledge all requests are decided upon their merits.<br />
[07:00:28] &lt;fr0de&gt; nisshh, sorry, was just trying to joke that there's noone from Perth here.. :P<br />
[07:00:30] &lt;kermiac&gt; ok, fair enough. Thanks head_victim<br />
[07:00:37] &lt;head_victim&gt; It might be easier from an official team (and who's to say we won't be reapproved by then) but it's not exclusive right I don't think<br />
[07:00:38] &lt;nisshh&gt; fr0de: oh lol<br />
[07:01:18] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok, anyone else have anything to add on the topic of SFD?<br />
[07:01:45] &lt;nisshh&gt; its awesome?<br />
[07:01:53] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; I'll just say that I will have a chat with the LinuxSA guys and see what they say<br />
[07:02:02] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; I think they were wanting to do -something- <br />
[07:02:23] &lt;head_victim&gt; somethinginteres: good stuff, by all means get involved and add a Ubuntu angle if possible.<br />
[07:02:48] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; head_victim: I shall try :) <br />
[07:03:11] &lt;head_victim&gt; [ACTION] People wanting to organise their local area should create a wiki page and discuss on the mailing list<br />
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[07:03:24] &lt;fr0de&gt; somethinginteres, even if you just have a stack of CDs at -something-, that'll help..<br />
[07:03:25] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok moving along again.<br />
[07:03:34] &lt;dns53&gt; somethinginteres you want to organise it?<br />
[07:03:48] &lt;head_victim&gt; Sorry, keep going if I was too premature<br />
[07:04:56] &lt;head_victim&gt; No?<br />
[07:05:13] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; dns53, I doubt I could organise it myself, time is not on my side per se :)<br />
[07:06:11] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; though I will certainly talk to some people - have a meeting on the 20th so.. <br />
[07:06:23] &lt;fr0de&gt; good luck :)<br />
[07:06:31] &lt;quail&gt; I can't help atm to organise anything for Adelaide, I have to look after my health, had bad reaction to new meds started last week<br />
[07:07:57] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok, so moving along then.<br />
[07:08:03] &lt;kermiac&gt; next item?<br />
[07:08:14] &lt;head_victim&gt; [TOPIC] Face to face meetings https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/LocalMeetings - added by blahdeblah <br />
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[07:08:28] &lt;head_victim&gt; He isn't here so I guess it was just a follow up to the wiki and mailing list concept<br />
[07:09:24] &lt;head_victim&gt; I think the idea has a lot of merit.<br />
[07:09:39] &lt;head_victim&gt; It could even be something we could line up to work with/beside the Ubuntu hour concept<br />
[07:09:46] &lt;head_victim&gt; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour<br />
[07:09:58] &lt;fr0de&gt; what about starting a meetup group for your local area and seeing who joins?<br />
[07:10:19] &lt;quail&gt; head_victim: it be good if can interact it with other groups at the same time via VoIP<br />
[07:10:27] &lt;nisshh&gt; holy crap, i just realised im the only active member from WA<br />
[07:10:28] &lt;kermiac&gt; i like the idea of local ubuntu hours<br />
[07:11:20] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; the Linux Supporters Group actually does that already every week from 2-4pm<br />
[07:11:25] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; it's been very promising<br />
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[07:11:29] &lt;fr0de&gt; http://ubuntu.meetup.com/<br />
[07:11:38] &lt;kermiac&gt; somethinginteres: where is that?<br />
[07:11:39] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; lots of non-Linux users asking to give it a go<br />
[07:11:46] &lt;head_victim&gt; somethinginteres: where is this group?<br />
[07:12:22] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; head_victim: see: http://linuxlsga.net/blog/?p=88<br />
[07:12:32] &lt;head_victim&gt; somethinginteres: ah k, so adelaide.<br />
[07:13:01] &lt;head_victim&gt; somethinginteres: next time they organise a date/place would it be acceptable to mail that to the list so ubuntu-au'ers can turn up and join in?<br />
[07:13:21] &lt;head_victim&gt; I just don't want to start treading on toes so you'll need to decide if that's acceptable or not to the group<br />
[07:13:31] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; yeah I'll find out <br />
[07:13:48] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; I don't see why not but will check <br />
[07:14:42] &lt;nisshh&gt; next thing?<br />
[07:14:45] &lt;head_victim&gt; somethinginteres: ok, well if it's a go ahead feel free to mail the list with the details. The idea being Ubuntu-AU'ers should read over the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour wiki first to get an idea abou tit<br />
[07:14:55] &lt;head_victim&gt; about it<br />
[07:15:35] &lt;head_victim&gt; I think it's a case of people just setting locations and times and mailing the list and seeing how many show up. If it's public even 2 people will be a start.<br />
[07:16:16] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; yeah <br />
[07:16:32] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok, so does anyone have anything else to add about face-to-face meetings?<br />
[07:16:43] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; just quickly, the only trouble with the LSG is it isn't ubuntu specific <br />
[07:17:03] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; perhaps it would be good to organise a similar gathering as the one I mentioned but make it ubuntu specific <br />
[07:17:13] &lt;fr0de&gt; a point,<br />
[07:17:19] &lt;head_victim&gt; somethinginteres: ok, just make sure the time/date don't conflict I guess <br />
[07:17:44] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; head_victim: no worries<br />
[07:18:01] &lt;head_victim&gt; I think finding the venue that will work will be the hard part.<br />
[07:18:02] &lt;fr0de&gt; I know that having a meetup group helped the Skeptics in the pub grow enormously<br />
[07:18:09] &lt;dns53&gt; somethinginteres remember we also have the hacker space so we could use that as a venue as well<br />
[07:18:30] &lt;head_victim&gt; dns53: as long as the general public can access it easily that should be perfect<br />
[07:18:50] &lt;fr0de&gt; even if it's not directly linked to the official channels of ubuntu goodness..<br />
[07:19:08] &lt;head_victim&gt; fr0de: the idea is to move away from licensed venues though as that will only attract a small percentage, cafes on a sidewalk would get a much larger audience, etc.<br />
[07:19:58] &lt;fr0de&gt; head_victim, I didn't mean that we have to have it in a pub, just to have a meetup group to help gather folks<br />
[07:20:05] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ah yeah, sorry mate.<br />
[07:20:16] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; dns53, hacker space?<br />
[07:20:40] &lt;head_victim&gt; As far as meetings to just have bugjams, installfests, etc anywhere should do.<br />
[07:22:01] &lt;kermiac&gt; [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour<br />
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[07:22:09] &lt;dns53&gt; somethinginteres http://groups.google.com/group/hackerspace-adelaide?hl=en   there is a meeting tomorrow, but i can't make it on wednesdays<br />
[07:22:19] &lt;head_victim&gt; [IDEA] People to send meeting locations and time information to mailing list and include on wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/LocalMeetings<br />
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[07:22:44] &lt;head_victim&gt; So anyone else have anything to add?<br />
[07:23:40] &lt;kermiac&gt; head_victim: I've got a quick little something about the bugjam project<br />
[07:23:49] &lt;kermiac&gt; when that topic's finished<br />
[07:23:54] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok<br />
[07:24:24] &lt;head_victim&gt; [TOPIC] Bugjams - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/BugJams<br />
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[07:24:27] &lt;head_victim&gt; kermiac: take it away<br />
[07:24:42] &lt;kermiac&gt; ok, just a very quick follow-up on the BugJam status<br />
[07:25:19] &lt;kermiac&gt; I've (finally) finished the 1st draft of the online class so I'll send details to the mailing list & setup a poll so we can organise a date<br />
[07:25:34] &lt;head_victim&gt; The wiki page for bugjams is looking pretty good <br />
[07:25:55] &lt;kermiac&gt; [ACTION] kermiac to create poll on time for BugJam<br />
[07:26:23] &lt;head_victim&gt; Apparently only the chair can action, anyone can idea though<br />
[07:26:37] &lt;kermiac&gt; yeah, pls action that for me head_victim<br />
[07:27:07] &lt;kermiac&gt; and I'll also email the mailing list with details<br />
[07:27:08] &lt;head_victim&gt; [ACTION] kermiac to create poll on time for BugJam and email details to mailing list<br />
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[07:27:24] &lt;kermiac&gt; thanks head_victim<br />
[07:27:47] &lt;kermiac&gt; then after we decide on a date/time all I need to do is find a few example bugs & we'll be ready to rock<br />
[07:28:25] &lt;somethinginteres&gt; kermiac, the sc-metadata bugs would be an easy fix https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+milestone/maverick-round-9-sc-metadata<br />
[07:28:42] * nisshh will brb<br />
[07:28:57] &lt;head_victim&gt; Ok kermiac anything else on the bugjams?<br />
[07:29:27] &lt;kermiac&gt; somethinginteres: the bugjams are more about "triaging" than "fixing"<br />
[07:30:00] &lt;kermiac&gt; [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/BugJams<br />
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[07:30:15] &lt;kermiac&gt; ok, that's it from me... Any questions regarding the bugjam? Most of the details will be sent through to the mailinglist<br />
[07:31:15] &lt;head_victim&gt; Well we've been going an hour and a half and we've covered all the agenda items. Does anyone else have anything to add before we bring this meeting ot a close?<br />
[07:32:39] &lt;kermiac&gt; +1 end meeting<br />
[07:33:49] &lt;fr0de&gt; +1 end meeting<br />
[07:33:52] &lt;iflema&gt; nothing here....<br />
[07:34:00] &lt;head_victim&gt; If anyone else has anything to bring up they can add it to the next months meeting agenda or the mailing list<br />
[07:34:01] &lt;clubbed2death&gt; i've said all i have to say :-)<br />
[07:34:05] &lt;head_victim&gt; Thank you all for your participation<br />
[07:34:07] &lt;head_victim&gt; #endmeeting<br />
Meeting ended.<br />